ubuntu-bugcontrol team mailing list archive

[James Westby <jw+debian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Dara,

On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 10:13 -0700, Brian Murray wrote:
> Under the section Special types of bugs, "Please merge <package> from
> Debian unstable (main)" is cited as being a project management task
> and the wiki page therefore states it should be avoided.

It's not so much that these should be avoided, but that the normal
rules don't really apply, and so they should only be touched
if you understand what purpose they serve and the process that
surround them.

> I will use Bug 252287 as an example here to better illustrate my
> problem. Bug 252287 is currently subscribed by Aïssi Dylan (reporter),
> Iain Lane, and me. With the exception of Iain Lane (who was subscribed
> to the bug later on), Aïssi Dylan and I are non-developers and members
> of Ubuntu Bug Squad. It seems highly unlikely, therefore, that this is
> a project management task for developers. I mistakenly subscribed
> Ubuntu Package Archive Administrators, as I believed that team would
> probably use the bug report as a project management task. Instead,
> Iain Lane commented that "Only developers with upload rights may
> approve sync requests and subscribe the archive" and promptly
> unsubscribed the archive administrators. I sent him a private email
> apologizing. After filling the bug report with as much information as
> I thought was necessary, I brought the issue up on #ubuntu-bugs to ask
> if it should be marked as triaged. I did not receive a fully
> conclusive answer. Some said the bug should be avoided since it was a
> project management task (which I find highly unlikely), while others
> said Triaged status is not the best step to take.

I think the problem here is that the original reporter did not subscribe
the sponsors to their request, either because they forgot, or they are
not familiar with the process.

The information that you provided was exactly what was needed, and so it
would be fine to subscribe the sponsors after that.

> It is my opinion that the bug was filed by Aïssi Dylan as a request
> for the updated package, and not for project management purposes.
> Without Triaged status, though, it might take a while until a
> developer looks at the bug.

That might well be the case. However, sync bugs are only really looked
at when the sponsors queue is subscribed, so the "Triaged" status
doesn't really make a difference here.

It's realised that having these things mixed in with bugs isn't ideal.

I hope this explains the problem, if not then please ask for 
clarification.