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Re: Application from Vej for Ubuntu Bug Control membership

 

Looks pretty cool. On the other hand these are the things that I think could be improved:


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Jonas Diekmann:
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1657440)
> -- Added more informations to title

Jonas Diekmann:
> - apt won't redownload Release.gpg
> + apt won't redownload Release.gpg after inconsistent cache updates
> + made while UCA is being updated

I think that the previous title was somehow better. As the extra verbosity really doesn't ease looking for the bug, bug rather it hides its core principle.

This can appear trivial, but when having many bugs listed together it can make a sensible difference.

(https://elsmar.com/Identify_Waste/img011.jpg)


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Jonas Diekmann:
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1657440)

Jonas Diekmann:
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/1657092)

Jonas Diekmann:
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/51633)

In these reports:

- In the tag list, there isn't any release first name listed. So searches by release won't be able to find the report.

- There's no information about the user's system (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Triage/Enough%20information/System%20information)


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Jonas Diekmann:
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1657440)
> -- Asked on #ubuntu-bugs to triage this.

This is a common practise, but I recommend not doing it. People shall communicate only when there's an abnormality, not when doing ordinary work. Otherwise you end getting a big wave of irrelevant messages.

(https://eriskusnadi.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/push-pull-system.png)

The moment a bug is confirmed it automatically appears in my work-flow as requiring importance to be set, so noticing me about that really does nothing:

(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Importance/Lists%20of%20bugs)


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Jonas Diekmann:
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/1657092)

(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Triage):
> If the bug is trivial to fix, is it marked as affecting the
> "hundredpapercuts" project?


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Jonas Diekmann:
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/1657092)

(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Triage/Classify%20as%20a%20stable%20release%20update):
> If a bug falls into one of these cases:
> ...
> - Fixing it has little chance of messing other things up
> ...
> You shall nominate it for a stable release update.


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Jonas Diekmann:
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deja-dup/+bug/1664015)
> Using a canned respond.

This is also a common practise, but also unnecessary. Saying nothing would have had the same effect, as Launchpad already states:
> Remember, this bug report is a duplicate of bug #1623835.
> Comment here only if you think the duplicate status is wrong.


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If you improve these small things I will vote for you application for sure. That said the rest of things looks quite good to me, specially the importances part where people tend to choose worse.

Also I know the triaging manual is somehow messy, so missing some of these points is rather easy. That's why I usually recommend using this manual instead: (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Triage)

Thanks and good luck! 😉


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