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[Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>]

XKB seplime hojjet qa'idiliri uchun bu betke qarang:

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/XKeyboardConfig/Rules

2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>

> Aldi bilen 2-elxettiki so'alingizgha jawab berey.  1-sige heliraq bosh
> waqit chiqqanda jawab berey.
>
> Bu so'alning otturigha chiqidighanliqini burnla bilettim. [?]  Toghra, u
> halet kunupkisida *China* dep chiqidu (bumu manga ghelite korun'gen).  Bu
> menigche ashu halet kozniki yaki programmisining ozining xataliqi yaki
> bolmisa shundaq layihilen'gen (bu ehtimalliqi towenrek).  Meyli u yerde
> qandaq korunsun, *XKB ning kunupka taxtiliri choqum bir doletke tewe
> bolushi shert* iken (bu muqim qa'ide bolghachqa, emel qilmisaq
> bolmaydiken; bu toghriliq Tibetchini qoshqan adashmu xkb-config ning ezaliri
> bilen taza talash-tartish qiliptiken:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12088).  Shunga bu mesile
> nowette mushu petiche turup turidu.  Emeliyett *English* ke
> almashtursingizmu *USA* dep chiqidu.
>
>
> Azraq waqtim bar iken, emdi 1-elxettiki so'alliringizgha jawab beriwetey.
>  Men mundaq oylighan:
>
> Windows 7 diki Uyghurche kunupka orunlashturushi meyli qandaqla bolmisun, u
> bir emeliyettiki olchem.  Bu deginim, bu kunupka taxtisining wezni Uyghur
> tor betliridiki herqandaq kunupka taxtiliri (meyli u qanche toghra yaki
> aqiliane layihilen'gen bolsun) din eghir, teximu qa'il qilarliq kuchke ige.
>  Yeni, biz xeqke kunupka taxtimizni ewetkende uni mushuning olchemlik
> ikenlige qa'il qildurushimiz kerek, gerche bu olchem sel kona bolsimu.
>  Toghra, bu kunupka taxtisida heqiqeten mesililer kop, bunisi manga besh
> qoldek ayan, chunki menmu eyni waqitta shu munazirilerde bar.  Lekin,
> bizning u maniziridiki qararlirimiz, layihilirimiz meyli qanche aqilane,
> mukemmel bolsun, u beribir hechqandaq olchem orgini yaki nopuzluq
> organlarning testiqidin otup, resmiy hojjet supitide elan qilinmidi.
>  Shunga, men bu yerde yenila Windows 7 diki "olchemlik" kunupka taxtisini
> (waqtinche) ishlitip turushni toghra taptim.  Bundaq bolghanda, xkb-config
> ning ezalirinimu qa'il qildurghili bolidu, shundaqla Linux bilen Windows 7
> arisidiki kunupka taxta birdeklini saqlighili bolidu.  Emdi mawu yengi
> layihe chiqqanda, bu kunupka taxtisigha yamaq salsaqmu yaki yengidin
> olchemlik kunupka taxtisi qoshsaqmu bolidu (shu chaghda sozlisekmu gepimiz
> chong bolidu, chunki bizning yollighinimiz hemmisi qanunluq, resmiy kunupka
> taxtiliri, hergiz ozimizning oydurup chiqiriwalghan oyunchuqi emes).  Bunisi
> Windows diki kunupka taxtisigha ozgertish qilishqa qarighanda kop asanraq,
> shundaq bolsimu choqum qa'idisi bilen, ilmiy ish qilishimiz kerek (XKB ning
> Tibetchisimu del Windows Vista diki kunupka taxtisini kochurup ishletken).
>  Alim Ehed ependimning koz qarishimu mushundaq bolghan.
>
> Rehmet.
>
> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <gheyret@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Yene bir Ekran korunushi,
>>
>> Bu qetim Ekranni quluplap(Screen Lock) qilghanda chiqqan koznekni ewettim.
>> bu yerdimu China dep korundi.
>>
>> Salam Bilen
>> Gheyret T.Kenji
>> 2010/05/12
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <gheyret@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> Essalamuleykum,
>>>
>>> Uyghurchini ayrim orunlashturghili bolmasmu?
>>> chunki men kirguzguchni orunlashturup, Uyghurche kirguzush halitige
>>> otsem, kunupka haliti china dep chiqti, Uyghurche dep korunmidi.
>>> ekran korunushi(screenshot) ni  ewettim.
>>>
>>> Salam Bilen
>>> Gheyret T.Kenji
>>> 2010/05/12
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/5/12 Gheyret T. Kenji <gheyret@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Essalamueleykum Abdusalam Abdurahman ependi,
>>>>
>>>> Japaliq emgikingiz uchun sizge kop teshekkur.
>>>> Bir qanche mesilini otturgha qoymaqchimen:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Otkende Bilik we UKIJ tor betliride siziq heqqide pikirler bolup,
>>>> _(pes siziq ) kunupkisigha  –(siziq  0x2013) orunlashturush qarar qilin'ghan
>>>> idi.
>>>>
>>>> 2. uningdin bashqa  "<"(kichik)  bilen ">"(chong) ikki kunupkigha,
>>>>  Uyghur tilidiki tinish belgilerdin yalang tirnaq "‹"(0x2039) we "›"(0x203a)
>>>> ni orunlashturush heqqidimu pikirler bolghan.
>>>> mening his qilishimche , kirguzguch yasighuchilar qosh tirnaqni
>>>> "«"(0x00ab),"»"(0x00BB) ni bastaxtigha orunlashturushni unutmisimu, yalang
>>>> tirnaqni orunlashturushni untup qalidighan ehwal jiq iken.
>>>> bu yalang tirnaq heqqidimu bilikte pikirler bolghan idi, shu boyiche
>>>> aptor(Muhemmed ependi) buni tuzetken idi, hazirmu bilik we bashqa muhemmed
>>>> ependi ishligen kirguzguchni ishlitiwatqan betlerde,  buni ongayla sinap
>>>> korushke bolidu.
>>>>
>>>> Menmu UyghurEdit mushundaq orunlashturghan idim.
>>>> meningche mushu uch herpni qoshuwetsingiz, hazirghiche kop ishlitidighan
>>>> kirguzguchlerdiki tinish belgiliri oxshash bolghan bolidu. bumu keyinki
>>>> olchemleshturushke paydiliq dep qaraymen.
>>>>
>>>> Salam Bilen
>>>> Gheyret T.Kenji
>>>> 2010/05/12
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/5/12 Abdusalam Abdurahman <abdusalam.abdurahman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>> Yaxshimuzler kopchilik,
>>>>>
>>>>> Otkende men Ubuntu diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisi toghrisida koz
>>>>> qarishimni otturigha qoyghan.  Shu qetimqi munaziridin keyin, Ubuntu 10.04
>>>>> da qoshup tarqitilghan Uyghurche kunupka taxtisini esta'idil bir tekshurup,
>>>>> bayqighan mesililerni tuzitip axirida unining XKB nusxisini putturup
>>>>> tugettim.  Bugun manu shu kunupka tastisini sizlerning tekshurup
>>>>> berishinglargha sunmaqchi.  Bolsa hemme ezalar oz sistemisida bir sinap
>>>>> beqip, mesililer bolsa manga yetkuzse, tuzetkendin keyin yaki mesililer
>>>>> bayqalmisa, men xkb-config proyektining ezaliri bilen alaqiliship bu kunupka
>>>>> taxtini ular arqiliq Xorg ning XKB bolikige qoshuwetishni oylishiwatimen.
>>>>>  Bundaq bolghanda, Xorg ni asas qilghan herqandaq *nix sistemilirida,
>>>>> hechqandaq 3-chi terep yumshaq detalliri (mesilen, SCIM, Fcitx, IBus
>>>>> degendekler) gha tayanmayla, xuddiy US kunupka taxtisini nahayiti asanla
>>>>> qoshup ishletkendek, biwasite Uyghurche kunupka taxtisini qoshup ishletkili
>>>>> bolidu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Emdi bu kunupka taxtisi toghrisa bir omumiy chushenche beriwetey:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Bu kunupka taxtisi Muhemmed Abdulla ependim teminligen Uyghurche
>>>>>    kunupka taxta asasida ozgertip tuzuldi (munasiwetlik materiyallar Yulghun
>>>>>    tor bekitiidin elindi).
>>>>>    2. Yengi elan qilinmaqchi bolghan olchemlik Uyghurche kunupka
>>>>>    taxtisi qisqa waqit ichide chiqish entimalliqi yoq bolghachqa (Alim Ehed
>>>>>    ependimning koz qarisihi), bu kunupka taxtisidiki Uyghurche herplerning
>>>>>    orunlashturulishi Windows 7 diki Uyghurche kunupka taxtisiningki bilen
>>>>>    oxshash qilip tuzuldi.  Emma, XKB ning qa'idisi sewebi, L kunupkisining
>>>>>    Shift halettiki qimmitige Uyghurche qoshma herp LA orunlashturulmidi.
>>>>>    3. Bu kunupka taxtisi Ubuntu 10.04 neshride sinaldi.  Bu neshride
>>>>>    ozgertishke (yaki yamaq selishqa tegishlik) hojjetler tertipi bilen:
>>>>>
>>>>>    /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/cn
>>>>>
>>>>>    /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.xml
>>>>>    /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst
>>>>>
>>>>>    /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml
>>>>>    /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst
>>>>>
>>>>>    Sinaq qilmaqchi bolghan ezalar qoshumchidiki prislan'ghan 5 hojjet
>>>>>    arqiliq sistemingizdiki mushu 5 hojjetni qaplap kochuruwetsingizla bolidu (
>>>>>    *sudo* buyruqi bilen meshghulat qilishqa diqqet qiling).
>>>>>     Ubuntuning kona neshrliri (<=8.10?) "*base*" hojjetlerni ishletse,
>>>>>    bezi neshrliri (>=9.04?) "*evdev*" hojjetlerni ishlitidiken, shunga
>>>>>    hemmisini ozgertip qoydum.
>>>>>    4. Yuqiridiki qedem orunlinip bolghandin keyin, ustel yuzide
>>>>>    towendiki basquchlar arqiliq bu Uyghurche taxtisini qozghitimiz:
>>>>>    1)* System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts *ni eching;
>>>>>    2) *Add* ni besing;
>>>>>    3) *By Country *betige kiring (*By Language* betidin qoshsingizmu
>>>>>    bolidu);
>>>>>    4) *Country* tizimlik qutisidin *China* ni tallang;
>>>>>    5) *Variants* tizimlik qutisidin *China Uyghur* ni tallang;
>>>>>    6) *Add* ni besip jezimleshturung;
>>>>>    7) Keyinki koznekte, *Close* ni besip meshghuletni axirilashturung.
>>>>>    8) Emdi ustel yuzidiki Panel de kunupka taxtisi almashturush
>>>>>    sinbelgisi korunidu.   Ashu sin belgisini chekish yaki birikme kunupkilar
>>>>>    arqiliq kunupka taxtingizni almashtursingiz bolidu.
>>>>>    5. Sinaq jeryanida herqandaq mesile bolsa, mushu elxet tizimliki
>>>>>    yaki manage biwasite elxet yollang.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rehmet.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Abdusalam Abdurahman
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gheyret T. Kenji
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gheyret T. Kenji
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gheyret T. Kenji
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Abdusalam Abdurahman
>
>


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Abdusalam Abdurahman