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[Mike Romard <mromard@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Tony. I must have missed your message the first time around. I
definitely agree that Microblogging should be removed until we have this
sorted out.

Mike


On 14 April 2013 13:33, Tony Pursell <ajp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
>
> On 14 April 2013 16:35, Mike Romard <mromard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Kevin.
>>
>> Since Microblogging was my section, I have to ask, where/when was it
>> announced that Gwibber will no longer be installed by default? It was still
>> included in the version of 13.04 (alpha or beta... I don't recall which)
>> that I had installed while I was working on the section.
>>
>> I see in this OMG Ubuntu article that I found this morning  (
>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gwibber-not-in-ubuntu-13-04-install-friends)
>> that Gwibber will be replaced by Friends, which also won't be installed by
>> default for 13.04. Do we know if we should expect Friends to be in by
>> default for the 13.10 release?
>>
>> In any case, thank you for removing the Gwibber content.
>>
>> Mike Romard
>>
>>
>> On 13 April 2013 19:23, Kevin Godby <godbyk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I've removed mention of Wubi from the manual since it's not currently
>>> supported.
>>>
>>> I've also removed the Microblogging section since it documented
>>> Gwibber which is no longer installed by default.
>>>
>>> —Kevin
>>>
>>
> I put the following on the Manual Mailing list on April 10.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Friends Social networking for 13.04 is now handled by the Friends
> service, which replaces the backend Gwibber provided in previous Ubuntu
> releases. There is no transition required, if you have social networking
> accounts setup in Ubuntu Online Accounts, the Friends service will just
> work. The Gwibber lens in Unity has been replaced with a Friends lens and
> works in much the same way. The Gwibber client application is no longer
> included by default, for similar functionality friends-app can be installed
> from Software Center.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview
>
> I have been frequently re-installing 13.04 on USB stick since before then
> and to my dismay all the social media apps seen to be in a state of
> dis-array.
>
> If anyone still has Gwibber, then that is because it was an early 13.04
> release or was an upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04.  Gwibber may be in Universe
> and can still be installed from the Software Centre, but when I tried to,
> about a week ago, I just got a message saying it was not in the
> repository.  In any case, reviews of Gwibber are very disparaging, with
> hardly a good word to be said about it.
>
> 'Friends' seems to only support the Friends lens in the Dash which seems
> to a very poor relation of the Gwibber lens that I have in 12.04.  I cannot
> find the 'friends-app', referred to above, in the Software Centre.  I can
> only get Facebook post in the Friends lens.  No tweets.  I think this is
> because the Online Accounts manager only supports Facebook and not
> Twitter.  Altogether a complete mess.
>
> Empathy is also going down hill as well.  The UI is now terrible, only
> supporting large avatars and so being a disaster for anyone with lots of
> contact.  It too has bad reviews in the Software Centre.  I haven't found a
> way yet to enable IRC.  I tried to get into #ubuntu-meeting from it last
> night (using 13.04 on USB) and failed.  Again, I think that is because of a
> lack of support in the Online Accounts manager.  This time, for IRC
> accounts.
>
> For now, the Instant Messaging section of the manual is OK, but I had to
> propose the removal of Microblogging at last night's meeting.  Maybe,
> Microblogging will come good and something new can be written, but for now
> there is so much uncertainty and a lack of information from the developers
> about what is happening.
>
> Tony
>