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[Benjamin Kerensa <bkerensa@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mar 18, 2013 6:44 PM, "Robert Bruce Park" <robert.park@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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> On 13-03-18 06:16 PM, ɈɐȿϞƐęţ ṧḯṋפԋ Ҝалɗɧɑɤɨ wrote:
> > I would like to put across a different view point, show the masses
> > something which is even better than the default app, and they will
> > migrate before you know it.
>
> Unfortunately, you're wrong.
>
> > If they need facebook app , let facebook work on it...
>
> We absolutely can not wait around for Facebook to develop an app for
> our platform. Think about it from their point of view. Why would they
> spend any resources at all trying to support a platform that has
> literally zero percent market share? To them, it's a lot of effort for
> nothing. And if we release a phone that can not access facebook, then
> our phone is utterly irrelevant in the modern world of social networking.
>
> The indisputable fact of the matter is that we *have* to have Facebook
> (and Twitter, etc) apps on launch day, and nobody is going to make
> them for us but us.

But Facebook and Twitter and YouTube make their own apps they don't sell
those rights and they don't allow others to use their brand name... I think
on one hand your wrong though... They made apps for Firefox OS.... So why
not Ubuntu Touch?
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> (Thus far we've been very fortunate that the "us" I reference above
> has been "us, the Ubuntu community" and not just "us, Canonical",
> although we are eager to see increased community contributions)
>
> It seems like a good deal for Facebook. "Hey, we want to write your
> official app for you, and we want to pay you to do it." Obviously
> they'd have to exert a little bit of quality control in order to
> ensure that we are representing their brand properly, but it's much
> better than asking them to write the app themselves.
>
> > For all Ubuntu Desktop Users everyone seems to be comfortable with
> > Gwibber ( I am not promoting Gwibber nor restricting the scope to
> > Gwibber also ) but only suggesting why not enhance, reduce time
> > complexity of app and fine tune it and enhance the UI of what is
> > already present. Inturn who knows destop version might also get a
> > overhaul.
>
> Yes, that is the current plan. Gwibber has been rewritten from the
> ground up, features have been added, functionality has been
> modularized. Currently, the Facebook and Twitter apps are thin
> wrappers around the new gwibber code (which we are calling Friends, btw).
>
> So we have one core backend that is responsible for sending and
> receiving messages from basically any social network, and then there
> are some different GUI apps that provide frontends to this: Facebook
> app shows only Facebook messages, Twitter app shows only Twitter
> messages, and Gwibber app shows all messages.
>
> This does not change the fact that users are going to be expecting to
> find "the Facebook app" and "the Twitter app", and they will end up
> being disappointed and angry if those features are only available
> under an unfamiliar name (because they won't know the unfamiliar name,
> so they'll just assume the features are missing).
>
> People have been shouting this at us for *decades*. "Linux has no
> apps!" "Well, we do, kinda, but they have different names!" That is
> just not going to fly on launch day, I'm afraid.
>
> If we can't learn from our past, then we've already failed. And the
> lesson is "have brand-name apps."
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