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[Zisu Andrei <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx>]

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> But Facebook and Twitter and YouTube make their own apps they don't sell
> those rights and they don't allow others to use their brand name... I think
> on one hand your wrong though... They made apps for Firefox OS.... So why
> not Ubuntu Touch?


I think an app for firefox os means merely adding some extra support to
their touch application?

Zisu Andrei


On 19 March 2013 03:47, Benjamin Kerensa <bkerensa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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> On Mar 18, 2013 6:44 PM, "Robert Bruce Park" <robert.park@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> > On 13-03-18 06:16 PM, ɈɐȿϞƐęţ ṧḯṋפԋ Ҝалɗɧɑɤɨ wrote:
> > > I would like to put across a different view point, show the masses
> > > something which is even better than the default app, and they will
> > > migrate before you know it.
> >
> > Unfortunately, you're wrong.
> >
> > > If they need facebook app , let facebook work on it...
> >
> > We absolutely can not wait around for Facebook to develop an app for
> > our platform. Think about it from their point of view. Why would they
> > spend any resources at all trying to support a platform that has
> > literally zero percent market share? To them, it's a lot of effort for
> > nothing. And if we release a phone that can not access facebook, then
> > our phone is utterly irrelevant in the modern world of social networking.
> >
> > The indisputable fact of the matter is that we *have* to have Facebook
> > (and Twitter, etc) apps on launch day, and nobody is going to make
> > them for us but us.
>
> But Facebook and Twitter and YouTube make their own apps they don't sell
> those rights and they don't allow others to use their brand name... I think
> on one hand your wrong though... They made apps for Firefox OS.... So why
> not Ubuntu Touch?
>
> >
> > (Thus far we've been very fortunate that the "us" I reference above
> > has been "us, the Ubuntu community" and not just "us, Canonical",
> > although we are eager to see increased community contributions)
> >
> > It seems like a good deal for Facebook. "Hey, we want to write your
> > official app for you, and we want to pay you to do it." Obviously
> > they'd have to exert a little bit of quality control in order to
> > ensure that we are representing their brand properly, but it's much
> > better than asking them to write the app themselves.
> >
> > > For all Ubuntu Desktop Users everyone seems to be comfortable with
> > > Gwibber ( I am not promoting Gwibber nor restricting the scope to
> > > Gwibber also ) but only suggesting why not enhance, reduce time
> > > complexity of app and fine tune it and enhance the UI of what is
> > > already present. Inturn who knows destop version might also get a
> > > overhaul.
> >
> > Yes, that is the current plan. Gwibber has been rewritten from the
> > ground up, features have been added, functionality has been
> > modularized. Currently, the Facebook and Twitter apps are thin
> > wrappers around the new gwibber code (which we are calling Friends, btw).
> >
> > So we have one core backend that is responsible for sending and
> > receiving messages from basically any social network, and then there
> > are some different GUI apps that provide frontends to this: Facebook
> > app shows only Facebook messages, Twitter app shows only Twitter
> > messages, and Gwibber app shows all messages.
> >
> > This does not change the fact that users are going to be expecting to
> > find "the Facebook app" and "the Twitter app", and they will end up
> > being disappointed and angry if those features are only available
> > under an unfamiliar name (because they won't know the unfamiliar name,
> > so they'll just assume the features are missing).
> >
> > People have been shouting this at us for *decades*. "Linux has no
> > apps!" "Well, we do, kinda, but they have different names!" That is
> > just not going to fly on launch day, I'm afraid.
> >
> > If we can't learn from our past, then we've already failed. And the
> > lesson is "have brand-name apps."
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