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[Lewis Donofrio <lewis.donofrio@xxxxxxxxx>]

So long as its sold like that to the people, I just don't call it an
operating system like traditional Ubuntu does.

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On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 5:59 PM, David Hacker <davidhackerdvm@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Is a change root environment that uses that communicates with the android
> HAL (hardware abstraction layer) for certain proprietary functions like
> audio and media decoding and radio interface
>  On Mar 23, 2013 4:50 PM, "Lewis Donofrio" <lewis.donofrio@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> So how is this application an os?
>> On Mar 22, 2013 9:10 PM, "David Hacker" <davidhackerdvm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> It's been stated many times that in order to support multiple devices
>>> the Android HAL is necessary because open source graphics, ril, and audio
>>> libraries are not available for many devices.  Even for AOSP google does
>>> not release source for those components just binary blobs.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Lewis Donofrio <
>>> lewis.donofrio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Real question, when will the need for the android crutch be resolved,
>>>> aka native grub and all?
>>>> On Mar 22, 2013 8:40 AM, "Sergio Schvezov" <
>>>> sergio.schvezov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 02:41:51AM -0700, Christopher Noel Hesse wrote:
>>>>> > I guess not. Furthermore I assume we already have the latest Android
>>>>> 4.2.1
>>>>> > codebase from CM-10.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't do it automatically. If there is a good reason to though as
>>>>> when
>>>>> we upgraded from ICS to JB to get manta support, we will.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Actually, upgrading to 4.2.2 wouldn't be that clever, because we
>>>>> would
>>>>> > loose the ability to use usb debugging using adb before the first
>>>>> actual
>>>>> > boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are other issues as well, APIs change and it needs to be worth it
>>>>> to move there.
>>>>>
>>>>> > The new security handling in 4.2.2 forces you to manually whitelist
>>>>> your
>>>>> > PC's RSA access key on your device to be able to use the android
>>>>> debug
>>>>> > bridge.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It should be possible to disable that annoying security mechanism in
>>>>> Ubuntu
>>>>> > Touch if we want to upgrade to 4.2.2 though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and it also requires you to setup for adb root, that is one of the
>>>>> things we already disable.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are blueprints or just talk still about:
>>>>> - Figuring out what to do with adb long term in Ubuntu once we are on S
>>>>> - Changing Android to be in the container and have Ubuntu as the main
>>>>> OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ricardo S, do you have links to these if they already exist?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Sergio.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: I like adb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>