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[Daniel Wood <s.d.wood.82@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I would like to thank you all for your replies. Its very kind of you to
take the time to reply.

Nicholas
I will upgrade my machine to Vivid to see if that helps. I assumed that
14.10 would be ok as all the
documentation states 14.04 onwards.

https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/building-your-first-qml-app/

I have read the introduction tutorials and followed them. I have written a
number of apps that are almost complete

The frustration stems from trying to read the Ubuntu SDK documentation,
where many links are dead and the examples incomplete or not working.

When laying out UI elements I normally follow the Qt documentation:

http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-positioning-topic.html

Is there anything similar for Ubuntu?

I get a number of errors when using components such as column and row. Its
seems you can't use anchors with these
component and not all Ubuntu components can be placed in a row container.

My specific problem that caused my most recent meltdown was trying to
position a Label and Textfield in a Row below a OptionSelector that expands.

OptionSelector {}
Row{
Label{}
TextField{}
}

I get errors about using anchors if I use column and row. without anchors
everything is at the topleft or the label and textfield appear above the
optionselector.
The option selector doesn't seem to work when placed in a row.

*David*
The issues I have with the SDK are as follows:

- No Component Images. I don't understand what the UI components are from
the description alone and i have to use the UIToolkit Gallery to workout
which components I want. The UIToolKit gallery seems outdated.
- SDK Links. There are alot of broken links in the documentation some that
link to an ubuntu page asking the user to file a bug report. some link to a
404 on the Qt site.
- Examples. A number of the example don't work or are incomplete. The
imports seem to be different to my system. QtQuick 2.4 and ubuntu.component
1.2 don't exist, I have updated the SDK.
- Search function is very limited. Unless you know what you are looking for
its very difficult to use the search. When searching in the 15.04
components some 14.10 information was returned in the search. 'Apps QML SDK
15.04' was listed at the top of the results but the link went to some 14.10
components.

I understand that I 'just' need to file a bug report for these things but
when I am trying to work on an app in the hour or so that I have free in an
evening spending 10 mins filing bugs is very disruptive and frustrating.

Empty Pages:
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/how-write-rss-reader/
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/rss-reader-layout/

Picker example masks selected text:
https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.Pickers.Picker/


*Andrea*
I will log into IRC today and try to ask some questions during the European
work day. The trouble is that I work on Ubuntu during the evening which is
when I need the help.

Thanks,

Dan


On 17 June 2015 at 22:35, Andrea Bernabei <andrea.bernabei@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Wood <s.d.wood.82@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Where are developers supposed to get support when developing Ubuntu touch
>> software?
>>
>> I am using Ubuntu 14.10 and the most up todate SDK I am having an
>> incredibly frustrating time trying to write even the simplest of apps. I
>> understand QML, C++ and some javascript. I've been writing software using
>> Qt for almost 10 years so i thought developing Ubuntu apps would be fun.
>>
>> When i want to find information I go to the Ubuntu SDK
>> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/ and look through
>> the documentation. The trouble is the documentation is lacking any real
>> content and examples. Many of the links are dead and simply ask the user to
>> file a bug report.
>>
>> Many of the examples don't work with the latest SDK and many start with:
>>
>> import QtQuick 2.4
>> import Ubuntu.Components 1.2
>>
>> These don’t seem to be available in the SDK?
>>
>> I posted to IRC many times and never got a reply and i really don't know
>> where to turn.
>>
>> Hi Daniel :)
>
> I'm sorry to hear that, #ubuntu-touch and #ubuntu-app-devel are usually
> very active channels, and many canonical employees and community members
> spend a lot of their time there trying to help whoever is in need :)
>
> As others have said already, you can also try AskUbuntu if you want an
> alternative platform. If I were you, I'd just give IRC another go :)
>
> In the meanwhile, please report more details about your problems here :)
>
> In particular, about those imports, they are already available in the
> latest sdk release ;)
>
>
>
>> There are probably 1000's of people like myself that are eager to get
>> involved with Ubuntu but don't know how to get started, can't get the
>> support they need and eventually give up.
>>
>> Where are non-canonical employees supposed to look for help / support?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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