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[Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak <lukasz.zemczak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,

W dniu 14.08.2015 o 03:53, Robert Schroll pisze:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
> <lukasz.zemczak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Please DO NOT use the devel/devel-proposed channels for your phones if
>> not needed.
> 
> Perhaps then we should stop recommending devel for those wishing to
> "track the latest development" on developer.ubunutu.com [1]?  Although
> devel hasn't been updated in four months, so maybe that's supposed to be
> self-evident.
> 

Although what is written there is partially true, I will try to update
it with more details so it's evident how the real situation looks like.

>>  This means
>> that all the feature development actually happens on the vivid-based
>> channels, e.g. stable, rc and rc-proposed.
> 
> Neither stable or rc have images for manta or flo.  Should we be on
> rc-proposed, or would it be better to stay on the (stale) devel channel?
> 

The concept was that flo and manta are supported for promotion into the
devel channels, while the rc set only focuses on the devices we have
time to support with full force. We didn't have time or resources to do
a devel promotion for a long time and now - and seeing the current state
of wily touch, I would suppose we won't have one in the nearest time.

The main issue is of course time. With really limited resources we do
not have the man-power for taking care of so many devices. I think we
might need to re-visit which channels should be recommended and
supported for the flo and manta devices anyway.

What would I propose? I wouldn't want to give wrong hints here as I have
no idea what's the state of flo on rc-proposed, but that channel at
least gets developer focus. This developer focus is mainly for krillin
arale and mako, but still better than nothing.

>> This might sound a bit strong but we simply don't want users to get the
>> wrong impression by using the wrong channels.
> 
> When I asked four months ago about flo, I was specifically told to use
> devel.  Was that wrong at the time, or did things change?  Was there an
> announcement of the change?  If this is such a concern, the
> documentation [1] really ought to be updated.
> 

The situation with flo and manta is a bit more complicated. The warning
I sent out in my landing e-mail was more about the many stories of users
switching their mako, arale and krillin devices to devel-proposed to get
'the latest of the latest', wheres this in this channel it's not
entirely true.

All in all - the flo and manta situations need to be resolved. I will
bring it up with the product team and see what we can do about the
current situation.

> Robert
> 
> [1]
> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/, section
> "Channel selection guide"
> 

Cheers,

-- 
Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
 Foundations Team
 lukasz.zemczak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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