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[Niklas Wenzel <nikwen.developer@xxxxxxxxx>]

I also wanted to reply to this.

Am Do, 3. Dez, 2015 um 11:55 schrieb Mitchell Reese 
<dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> On 04/12/15 08:24, Niklas Wenzel wrote:
> > Am Mo, 23. Nov, 2015 um 4:22 schrieb Michał Sawicz
> > <michal.sawicz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> W dniu 23.11.2015 o 15:58, Renato Filho pisze:
> >>
> >>     In fact this command looks redundant: text:
> >>     i18n.tr(currentMonth.toLocaleString(Qt.locale(),i18n.tr("MMMM
> >>     yyyy"))) you do not need the extra: i18n.tr(....) covering the
> >>     result of 
> 'currentMonth.toLocaleString(Qt.locale(),i18n.tr("MMMM
> >>     yyyy"))' besides that everything looks good. I did some tests 
> on
> >>     my device and I did not find any problem, it printed the 
> correct
> >>     month name in Pt BR. You can check if you system is using the
> >>     correct languange by trying this command on your terminal: date
> >>     +%B, it should print the full month name in your language.
> >>
> >> This is because date formatting shouldn't be used here. There's a
> >> separate method for standaloneMonthName [1] as opposed to 
> possessive,
> >> which is used in date formatting. Check out the sample code [2]. 
> [1]
> >> 
> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtqml-locale.html#standaloneMonthName-method 
> [2]
> >> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13477242/
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Even though this doesn't affect me at all, I found it a bit sad that
> > it was lying around with no bug report anywhere.
> > So I filed one and proposed a fix for the issue. Thank you for the
> > hint, Michał!
> >
> > You can follow the progress here:
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1522569
> > And here:
> > 
> https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-standalone-month-name-i18n/+merge/279509
> > 
> <https://code.launchpad.net/%7Enikwen/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-standalone-month-name-i18n/+merge/279509>
> >
> > Next time when you have an issue with an app, file a bug report for
> > it. Instead of posting it to this list, go ahead and post it where 
> the
> > developers are going to listen: on the bug tracker on Launchpad. I
> > guess that none of the calendar app developers even saw this message
> > or they would probably have replied.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Niklas
> >
> >
> Thanks for that Niklas. FYI - I don't always have the time to find the
> right project on launchpad, and go through the process of filing a 
> bug.
> Particularly when I'm out and about with my phone, this is tedious
> enough that it's just not going to happen. A number of people in the
> past have said sending reports to this mailing list is also fine - it
> would be good for someone to clarify whether this is the case or not.

I understand this point for when one does not have a clue which project 
to file it against. However, the core apps or, let's say, Unity8 and 
the indicators should be relatively easy to find using Launchpad's 
search functionality.

> As a community member I'm happy to help out with the project while I
> can, and when I have the time, I'm happy to file bug reports. Time
> currently is at a huge premium for me however - between work (2
> businesses, one of which is a busy theatre company), family 
> commitments
> (2 kids under 10), and end of the year madness, it's rare I get to sit
> down at my computer and do ANYTHING with Ubuntu these days.

I totally understand that you don't have time to sit down at a computer 
but does it really take that much longer and is it more effective to 
file a bug report than to send out an email where only in an estimated 
50% of all cases someone actually goes ahead and files a bug report?
If you bookmark the Avengers wiki page where you can find links to the 
most important phone project bug trackers, including the direct "File a 
bug" link, this gets much faster and all you have to do is to actually 
write the bug report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers
> So what's more useful - posting to this list in the hopes someone 
> (like
> Renato) will be able to help with an issue, and pass it up the chain, 
> or
> posting nothing, and forgetting about the problem because I don't have
> time to file a bug report? Yep, get that the calendar is one of the
> easier projects to find, but often 'file a bug report' means lots of
> searching to find out where to actually file it. I've got about 20
> minutes now before I'm out the door again, and am probably going to be
> spending it troubleshooting my device so I can get the calendar 
> working
> - sorry, but the bug report is a few more notches down the priority 
> list.

I'd like to point out that in this specific case there was nothing 
wrong with the calculator besides a minor translation issue and 
everything else was working fine. Besides editing the QML files in 
/opt/clicks.ubuntu.com I don't see how one should be able to solve this 
manually.
Of course, posting it here may reveal it to a larger audience, but what 
if everyone started posting all of their bugs on the list now? Would 
you still like to be subscribed then? I don't think so...

Cheers,
Niklas

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