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[Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak <lukasz.zemczak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Tony!

We were considering that as well, but there are a few reasons we do not
want to do that. If we wanted to move to 16.10 instead of 16.04 we would
need to wait at least 6 more months for the switch to happen since we
*must* base on a released version. It's not acceptable to do it before
the series is fully released - we did that in the 14.09 times and it was
one of the worst ideas and experiences we had.

Waiting 6+ months to do a baseline switch is too long, we already
stretch vivid's possibilities - being that the main series is already EOL.

Cheers,

W dniu 22.04.2016 o 17:47, Tony Espy pisze:
> On 04/22/2016 11:01 AM, Pat McGowan wrote:
>> meant to send to the list
> 
> Pat --
> 
> Can you comment on whether consideration of moving to 16.10 is a
> possibility vs. 16.04 (xenial)?
> 
> Regards,
> /tony
> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *Pat McGowan* <pat.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:pat.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Xenial for Ubuntu Phone?
>> To: Filip Dorosz <filip.dorosz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:filip.dorosz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>
>>
>> No, the move to Xenial will not include a transition to Snappy, this is
>> a longer term work effort which we are also actively planning. We are
>> working with the snappy team on issues unique to ubuntu-personal (which
>> will be the basis for the phone) which are a superset of the problem
>> space compared to ubuntu-core.
>>
>> As Lukasz mentioned going to Xenial requires us to have a well thought
>> through migration path for apps/scopes and we will communicate much more
>> on this and work with developers as the plans get finalized.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Pat
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Filip Dorosz
>> <filip.dorosz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:filip.dorosz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Łukasz.
>>
>>     When the Phone move to Xenial will it also be Snappy based finally?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Filip Dorosz
>>
>>     W dniu 22.04.2016 o 11:41, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak pisze:
>>
>>         Hello Bob!
>>
>>         W dniu 22.04.2016 o 01:23, Bob Summerwill pisze:
>>
>>             So Xenial has been released :-)
>>
>>             My apologies if this has already been addressed, but what is
>>             the planned
>>             schedule for Xenial arriving for Ubuntu Phone devices?
>>
>>             I have been using a Meizu MX4 as my primary phone for the
>>             last few months,
>>             and I just took delivery of a BQ Aquarius M10 tablet and am
>>             setting it up
>>             right now.   Woohoo!
>>
>>             Both my devices are currently on Vivid 15.04 (OTA 10.1).
>>
>>             What is the Xenial transition plan for these official
>>             devices?    Best
>>             wishes!
>>
>>
>>         As already mentioned in a few landing e-mails, the baseline
>>         switch from
>>         vivid to xenial is our near-term plan for stable channels. But
>>         please
>>         remember that it's not an easy task. When we were switching our
>>         baseline
>>         from 14.09 (ubuntu-rtm) to 15.04 long time ago it took us a few
>>         months
>>         to stabilize the phone again. With xenial introducing the g++
>>         ABI break
>>         (and a few other nuances), the whole process could take even
>> longer
>>         since there's more things we need to consider during the switch.
>>
>>         The most difficult part is that we can't only concentrate on one
>>         front,
>>         meaning: we can't just drop everything and just work on getting
>>         xenial
>>         (devel-proposed) into working shape as our current focus needs
>>         to be on
>>         the stable devices (vivid-overlay). That being said, we will be
>>         preparing something similar to a 'task force' that will be
>>         taking care
>>         of moving the xenial initiative forward. It's really hard to
>>         give a firm
>>         schedule here - with this we still need to wait a bit.
>>
>>         All this means the next few OTAs will still be vivid-based
>> with our
>>         development focus on vivid, but then we intend to switch to
>>         xenial for
>>         future devices.
>>
>>
>>             I am on the waiting list for Meizu MX5 PRO as well, as my
>>             next phone.
>>
>>
>>             Cheers,
>>             Bob Summerwill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>
>>
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