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[Filip Dorosz <filip.dorosz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello

> Weird thing now is that we still don't have any official directions
> and timelines
>

Of course we have timelines now.
As Pat McGowan wrote today [1]
> There are new milestones defined
> on https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image
> <https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image>, you can see
> the main focus is now on Xenial (which is the basis for Ubuntu Core 16
> that we will use), and there are milestones assigned to Ubuntu
> Personal images which also encompasses the work for the Unity8 session
> on classic Ubuntu.
>
> How you can help is an excellent question, we certainly want to
> transition the click apps to snaps hence the earlier message to app
> developers. We will have more stable *test* images soon (for amd64 VMs
> and PC, and arm64 M10, we also have "kiosk" images for dragonboard and
> R-Pi in progress) which should allow us to pick up the pace of the
> transition. There is also the Unity8 session on classic desktop
> available now but it also needs to stabilize. 

I agree with you on this:
> Well, I just wanted to highlight that it is really an Ubuntu
> convergence project, which is a parent to Ubuntu personal, desktop,
> IoT and so on. Ubuntu phone got many things done already, and now we
> need the other projects to catch up. This is why I'm not expecting any
> new cool features to my Aquaris E4,5 in the nearest future (if at
> all). I am not concerned about the phone being discarded in terms of
> support, as this is already an aging device.
I also have E4.5 and I'm perfectly fine that it may not be updated to snaps.

-

I don't either get why there is so much hate in the comments section of
omgubuntu website. It doesn't state that the project is dead but a bunch
of people only red the title and went straight into comment section to
"celebrate", scream out their rage etc.

We should fight this misinformation thats floating around.

Cheers,
Filip.

W dniu 06.01.2017 o 21:30, Marcin pisze:
>
> I had scraps of the information pointing to that on several accounts
> now - on the Ubuntu community QA [0], Google plus page [1] and even on
> the Ubuntu podcast [2]. It was not kept secret at all.
>
> Weird thing now is that we still don't have any official directions
> and timelines, and people start to tend to think it means the project
> is being killed.
>
> Well, I just wanted to highlight that it is really an Ubuntu
> convergence project, which is a parent to Ubuntu personal, desktop,
> IoT and so on. Ubuntu phone got many things done already, and now we
> need the other projects to catch up. This is why I'm not expecting any
> new cool features to my Aquaris E4,5 in the nearest future (if at
> all). I am not concerned about the phone being discarded in terms of
> support, as this is already an aging device. I am also relieved, that
> there are plans (or at least rumors) that M10 can have a life after snaps.
>
> Backwards compatibility is a killer, when you realized that what you
> did so far was not enough to keep pace (click packages?) or just
> purely wrong in the architecture design (click packages?).
>
> Writing an entirely new system, while trying to be backwards
> compatible with the old considered broken is a terribly bad idea. I'm
> actually happy that Ubuntu folks are saying - /we tried, failed (click
> is sleeping, but won't wake up), learned and now implement things as
> they should be (snaps). Then we can build upon that./
>
> I'm waiting for the snap based system, and a new phone coming along
> with that. Dual SIM preferrably ;)
>
> [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5B31hmY8HQ
> [1] https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/111350780270925540549
> [2] http://ubuntupodcast.org/
>
> On 01/06/2017 09:02 PM, Mitchell Reese wrote:
>> And people wonder why Canonical was silent? (apart from Christmas and
>> New Year break) EVERY tidbit of information here is picked up by
>> social media, 'the press', and everyone else to extrapolate this
>> project... How tedious...
>>
>> I run multiple theatre projects, community and professional, with
>> various funding partners. Not announceing before checking with them
>> is common courtesy. Sometimes that means keeping thnigs under my hat.
>>
>> According to omg ubuntu - their click-bait headline points to the
>> Ubuntu Touch project dying. What a clusterfuck...
>>
>> Mitchell
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> --
> Pozdrawiam,
>
> Marcin Waśko
>
>