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Re: We could do better on on-screen keyboards..

 

Viewsonic VPad 10 (with Atom N455, not the VPad 10s)

Am 13.04.2012 13:17, schrieb Sandy Martin:
> What Tablet are you using?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ********
>
> Seriously? Sometimes I hate this "auto in the way" behavior. I'm using a
> 10" Tablet with Unity 2D and I like the onboard keyboard. There are
> still some issues to fix and some features to add, but it's ok.
>
>
> Am 30.03.2012 21:37, schrieb Ian Santopietro:
> > I agree on some of your points, but then again, the OP has stated that
> > a better on-screen keyboard is a must have for Ubuntu on any
> > touchscreen.
> >
> > Currently, all of the on-screen keyboard utilities are aimed at a11y
> > folks, which is fine, but what we need is an on-demand keyboard that
> > always runs in the background, automatically pops up when focus is
> > placed on a text field, then automatically dismisses itself when that
> > focus is lost.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:40, Henri Sundelin <henri.sundelin@xxxxxx
> <mailto:henri.sundelin@xxxxxx>> wrote:
> >> A couple of comments:
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if the right approach is to copy _everything from
> other tablet
> >> platforms. Fullscreen interface is one of those features I'm not so
> sure
> >> about.
> >>
> >> This is because I see Ubuntu tablet as a device somewhere between a
> >> full-blown tablet and a desktop. I myself like the possibility to
> use the
> >> same device on road (or on sofa), and take it to work next morning
> - put it
> >> to a dock and do work with keyboard & stuff. Is this case, the
> multitouch
> >> screen gives some new ui possibilities - funnily I have lately
> found myself
> >> poking the desktop's screen also...:)
> >>
> >> I think there could be approach to do both:
> >> - Make sure all apps behave nice fullscreen
> >> - Have option to auto full screen apps when using as tablet
> >> - Unity multitouch gestures should in any case make it easy to work
> with
> >> many windows. In addition to that I'd really like to see gestures work
> >> switching through virtual desktops (ie one app/screen line
> Meego/Harmattan
> >> has)
> >>
> >> //HS
> >>
> >>
> >> On 26 Mar 2012, at 00:41, Николай Шатохин wrote:
> >>
> >> I hope Ubuntu Tablet will have a better interface. Multiwindow
> interface is
> >> inconvinient on Tablets. Better is signlewindow interface with
> convinient
> >> switcher between windows.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/3/23 Henri Sundelin <henri.sundelin@xxxxxx
> <mailto:henri.sundelin@xxxxxx>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> As I begun using my new tablet, I became more and more frustrated
> with the
> >>> on screen keyboards currently available. The main issue is that
> keyboard
> >>> “floats” on the screen, and typically bounces around the screen
> depending
> >>> where you’re writing (unless you actually fix it to the screen,
> which IMHO
> >>> sucks even more).
> >>>
> >>> This is something that Apple, Android, Nokia et al really do way
> better –
> >>> the existing Linux solutions are just conceptual copies of
> similarly poor
> >>> Windows solutions.
> >>>
> >>> One of the things I like in the iPad is that the keyboard pops
> always up
> >>> from the bottom to the same full-width place – this enables you to
> lay your
> >>> hands on the table and type. Good luck trying that on a “floating”
> keyboard.
> >>> So, I thought I had to come up with something, at least in my opinion,
> >>> better.
> >>>
> >>> In short, this is what I did:
> >>>
> >>> - I modified Onboard so that it always keeps at bottom at the same
> place,
> >>> as wide as possible.
> >>> - Auto-hide works as originally, utilizing at-spi
> >>> - If editable field would be behind keyboard, we signal Compiz to move
> >>> that window up so we can see what we edit.
> >>> - After editing – or moving to different field, we restore
> previous window
> >>> positions
> >>>
> >>> Here is a video file on how it works:
> >>>
> >>> http://users.tkk.fi/u/hsundeli/onboard_compiz.webm
> >>>
> >>> (framerate really sucks, but thats all the tablet can give.. key point
> >>> here is that I’m not moving any windows, just changing the focus.)
> >>>
> >>> Technically, Onboard sends dbus messages to Compiz’s dbus & put
> plugins.
> >>> Onboard stores state for what has been moved.
> >>>
> >>> I guess this solution is bit more “integrated” that what Linux
> community
> >>> is used to, but that is how it has to be if a better user
> experience is to
> >>> be desired. I have no idea if this is even possible in say Unity 2D.
> >>>
> >>> Code-wise I’m pondering what to do next – depends on what people
> think.
> >>> Either make this a Onboard fork or merge to Onboard capabilities
> if there is
> >>> sufficient interest..
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> //HS
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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