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Re: Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.


What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Don't worry about user accounts at all (From an end-user perspective, and content-wise), and allow access to content below a certain maturity Level. Then, when the user tries to access restricted content (like an R-rated movie), or access content during restricted hours (like at 03:00 in the morning), then require a simple PIN, password, or pattern to continue? This allows full-use of the system without the requirement of having an existing Ubuntu Device, and allows for future favorites sync, remote control, and other possibilities through Ubuntu One and other devices later.

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On Mon 28 Nov 2011 01:46:42 PM MST, Callum Saunders wrote:
Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like
    x-rated movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to
    watch recorded movies accessible for all ages or other content.
    Again, only logging in when you come to "dangerous" parts of the
    system for young kids.

    With metta, Chris

    On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:37, Callum Saunders
    <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Ubuntu TV being desktop and having a TV mode seems to defeat
        the purpose of TV, it would complicate the whole experience.

        Multiple accounts would be good, probably necessary when
        working with Ubuntu One. I don't think it should ask for login
        at startup though as it slows down getting to content (Imagine
        realising you're about to miss Doctor Who and having to login
        into your TV?
        I'd prefer if it just booted into default mode, straight into
        channels and then people can log in if they want their stuff.

        On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
        <mailto:joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


            I was thinking about Ubuntu TV after seeing Alan Bells

            1) The TV is also a Big Screen.

            I disagree with the idea that Ubuntu TV should only be TV.
            What I would like, is to have one TV-mode for actually
            watching TV, and another for an extra desktop thing. I
            think it would be nice if the "show desktop" feature was
            used for this. When you show the desktop, then your normal
            Unity becomes visible with the desktop Unity, etc. Hit the
            button again, and the screen fades back into TV mode.

            2) User management.

            Ubuntu TV should support multiple users, for multiple
            reasons. One good reason is permissions. Parents should be
            able to choose which sites and channels their kids are
            allowed to watch and when. Kids of different ages should
            be able to watch different things. Some wives might want
            to control their husbands as well. ;)

            Another thing is obviously favorite channels, bookmarks
            (which we need to come up with a better name for),
            personal applications and settings. You would also
            configure your personal devices, which would be recognized
            automatically. (I'll get back to that)

            When you "start" the TV, you should be presented with a
            login screen which should be remote controllable using a
            standard remote (and other things). The default option
            would be to log in as Guest (perhaps Viewer, or something
            like that would be better). This account would have
            restricted access.

            2) Controlling Ubuntu TV.

            When you start the TV, you choose a user using a normal
            remote control or your phone using bluetooth. You would
            then be able to choose which devices to use. For instance,
            I would bring my netbook and phone and sit down on my
            couch. I then pick up the remote control on the table (or
            start an app on my phone) and press the on-button. That
            displays a welcome screen:

            1) Guest
            2) Jo-Erlend
            3) Ima Nother

             I press 2 to choose "Jo-Erlend" and then I'm displayed
            with a second screen:

            1) Enter your PIN using the remote control.
            2) Activate joe-netbook and joe-phone
            3) Only use joe-netbook
            4) Only use joe-phone

            This is where it gets interesting. I can log in using the
            remote control, entering a PIN number I've chosen. This
            only provides access to watch TV and not other parts of
            the system, since a PIN doesn't provide much security, but
            sufficient to watch TV.

            However, that's boring. Instead, I choose to activate my
            netbook and phone. These are discovered on the WLAN. If I
            activate my phone, then a remote control app is run on the
            phone which is then used as an input device and I can
            login using an onscreen keyboard. I can then use my real
            password, providing full access to my user account on the
            big screen. I would use my phone as a dynamic, touchbased
            remote control, with play controls and lenses to easily
            access content, but also get webfeed updates on it -- from
            the TV system, etc. I should be able to switch to desktop
            mode, and then the phone can be used as a mouse and an
            onboard keyboard.

            Activating my netbook means the TV connects to it, and I
            can then use my laptops keyboard and touchpad as input
            units for the TV, providing me with a very big screen to
            do any kind of work, like a big spreadsheet or anything.
            This solution is already readily available in Synergy,
            which is available for OS X, Windows, GNU/Linux, meaning
            that any laptop can easily be used for this as long as
            Synergy is running on it.

            It would be nice if you could use tablets for this as
            well, at least as a mouse and keyboard for the TV, but the
            TV should also be able to display things on the tablet in
            that case.

            What do you think?

            Jo-Erlend Schinstad

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