ubuntu-tv team mailing list archive

[Thomas Mashos <thomas@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in.
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like x-rated
>> movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded
>> movies accessible for all ages or other content.
>> Again, only logging in when you come to "dangerous" parts of the system
>> for young kids.
>> With metta, Chris
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:37, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ubuntu TV being desktop and having a TV mode seems to defeat the purpose
>>> of TV, it would complicate the whole experience.
>>>
>>> Multiple accounts would be good, probably necessary when working with
>>> Ubuntu One. I don't think it should ask for login at startup though as it
>>> slows down getting to content (Imagine realising you're about to miss Doctor
>>> Who and having to login into your TV?
>>> I'd prefer if it just booted into default mode, straight into channels
>>> and then people can log in if they want their stuff.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>>> <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking about Ubuntu TV after seeing Alan Bells thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> 1) The TV is also a Big Screen.
>>>>
>>>> I disagree with the idea that Ubuntu TV should only be TV. What I would
>>>> like, is to have one TV-mode for actually watching TV, and another for an
>>>> extra desktop thing. I think it would be nice if the "show desktop" feature
>>>> was used for this. When you show the desktop, then your normal Unity becomes
>>>> visible with the desktop Unity, etc. Hit the button again, and the screen
>>>> fades back into TV mode.
>>>>
>>>> 2) User management.
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu TV should support multiple users, for multiple reasons. One good
>>>> reason is permissions. Parents should be able to choose which sites and
>>>> channels their kids are allowed to watch and when. Kids of different ages
>>>> should be able to watch different things. Some wives might want to control
>>>> their husbands as well. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Another thing is obviously favorite channels, bookmarks (which we need
>>>> to come up with a better name for), personal applications and settings. You
>>>> would also configure your personal devices, which would be recognized
>>>> automatically. (I'll get back to that)
>>>>
>>>> When you "start" the TV, you should be presented with a login screen
>>>> which should be remote controllable using a standard remote (and other
>>>> things). The default option would be to log in as Guest (perhaps Viewer, or
>>>> something like that would be better). This account would have restricted
>>>> access.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Controlling Ubuntu TV.
>>>>
>>>> When you start the TV, you choose a user using a normal remote control
>>>> or your phone using bluetooth. You would then be able to choose which
>>>> devices to use. For instance, I would bring my netbook and phone and sit
>>>> down on my couch. I then pick up the remote control on the table (or start
>>>> an app on my phone) and press the on-button. That displays a welcome screen:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Guest
>>>> 2) Jo-Erlend
>>>> 3) Ima Nother
>>>>
>>>>  I press 2 to choose "Jo-Erlend" and then I'm displayed with a second
>>>> screen:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Enter your PIN using the remote control.
>>>> 2) Activate joe-netbook and joe-phone
>>>> 3) Only use joe-netbook
>>>> 4) Only use joe-phone
>>>>
>>>> This is where it gets interesting. I can log in using the remote
>>>> control, entering a PIN number I've chosen. This only provides access to
>>>> watch TV and not other parts of the system, since a PIN doesn't provide much
>>>> security, but sufficient to watch TV.
>>>>
>>>> However, that's boring. Instead, I choose to activate my netbook and
>>>> phone. These are discovered on the WLAN. If I activate my phone, then a
>>>> remote control app is run on the phone which is then used as an input device
>>>> and I can login using an onscreen keyboard. I can then use my real password,
>>>> providing full access to my user account on the big screen. I would use my
>>>> phone as a dynamic, touchbased remote control, with play controls and lenses
>>>> to easily access content, but also get webfeed updates on it -- from the TV
>>>> system, etc. I should be able to switch to desktop mode, and then the phone
>>>> can be used as a mouse and an onboard keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> Activating my netbook means the TV connects to it, and I can then use my
>>>> laptops keyboard and touchpad as input units for the TV, providing me with a
>>>> very big screen to do any kind of work, like a big spreadsheet or anything.
>>>> This solution is already readily available in Synergy, which is available
>>>> for OS X, Windows, GNU/Linux, meaning that any laptop can easily be used for
>>>> this as long as Synergy is running on it.
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice if you could use tablets for this as well, at least as
>>>> a mouse and keyboard for the TV, but the TV should also be able to display
>>>> things on the tablet in that case.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>>>>
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Ugh. Can we get rid of the idea of logging into your TV? As we
discussed at UDS, nobody wants to login to the TV. It takes too long
and difficult to do on a remote. For age appropriate content, I say we
stick with the PIN idea. This should be an appliance, not a full
desktop replacement.

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Thomas Mashos