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[Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>]

How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content?

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos <thomas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like
> x-rated
> >> movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded
> >> movies accessible for all ages or other content.
> >> Again, only logging in when you come to "dangerous" parts of the system
> >> for young kids.
> >> With metta, Chris
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:37, Callum Saunders <dancemeep@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ubuntu TV being desktop and having a TV mode seems to defeat the
> purpose
> >>> of TV, it would complicate the whole experience.
> >>>
> >>> Multiple accounts would be good, probably necessary when working with
> >>> Ubuntu One. I don't think it should ask for login at startup though as
> it
> >>> slows down getting to content (Imagine realising you're about to miss
> Doctor
> >>> Who and having to login into your TV?
> >>> I'd prefer if it just booted into default mode, straight into channels
> >>> and then people can log in if they want their stuff.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> >>> <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was thinking about Ubuntu TV after seeing Alan Bells thoughts.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) The TV is also a Big Screen.
> >>>>
> >>>> I disagree with the idea that Ubuntu TV should only be TV. What I
> would
> >>>> like, is to have one TV-mode for actually watching TV, and another
> for an
> >>>> extra desktop thing. I think it would be nice if the "show desktop"
> feature
> >>>> was used for this. When you show the desktop, then your normal Unity
> becomes
> >>>> visible with the desktop Unity, etc. Hit the button again, and the
> screen
> >>>> fades back into TV mode.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) User management.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ubuntu TV should support multiple users, for multiple reasons. One
> good
> >>>> reason is permissions. Parents should be able to choose which sites
> and
> >>>> channels their kids are allowed to watch and when. Kids of different
> ages
> >>>> should be able to watch different things. Some wives might want to
> control
> >>>> their husbands as well. ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> Another thing is obviously favorite channels, bookmarks (which we need
> >>>> to come up with a better name for), personal applications and
> settings. You
> >>>> would also configure your personal devices, which would be recognized
> >>>> automatically. (I'll get back to that)
> >>>>
> >>>> When you "start" the TV, you should be presented with a login screen
> >>>> which should be remote controllable using a standard remote (and other
> >>>> things). The default option would be to log in as Guest (perhaps
> Viewer, or
> >>>> something like that would be better). This account would have
> restricted
> >>>> access.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) Controlling Ubuntu TV.
> >>>>
> >>>> When you start the TV, you choose a user using a normal remote control
> >>>> or your phone using bluetooth. You would then be able to choose which
> >>>> devices to use. For instance, I would bring my netbook and phone and
> sit
> >>>> down on my couch. I then pick up the remote control on the table (or
> start
> >>>> an app on my phone) and press the on-button. That displays a welcome
> screen:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Guest
> >>>> 2) Jo-Erlend
> >>>> 3) Ima Nother
> >>>>
> >>>>  I press 2 to choose "Jo-Erlend" and then I'm displayed with a second
> >>>> screen:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Enter your PIN using the remote control.
> >>>> 2) Activate joe-netbook and joe-phone
> >>>> 3) Only use joe-netbook
> >>>> 4) Only use joe-phone
> >>>>
> >>>> This is where it gets interesting. I can log in using the remote
> >>>> control, entering a PIN number I've chosen. This only provides access
> to
> >>>> watch TV and not other parts of the system, since a PIN doesn't
> provide much
> >>>> security, but sufficient to watch TV.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, that's boring. Instead, I choose to activate my netbook and
> >>>> phone. These are discovered on the WLAN. If I activate my phone, then
> a
> >>>> remote control app is run on the phone which is then used as an input
> device
> >>>> and I can login using an onscreen keyboard. I can then use my real
> password,
> >>>> providing full access to my user account on the big screen. I would
> use my
> >>>> phone as a dynamic, touchbased remote control, with play controls and
> lenses
> >>>> to easily access content, but also get webfeed updates on it -- from
> the TV
> >>>> system, etc. I should be able to switch to desktop mode, and then the
> phone
> >>>> can be used as a mouse and an onboard keyboard.
> >>>>
> >>>> Activating my netbook means the TV connects to it, and I can then use
> my
> >>>> laptops keyboard and touchpad as input units for the TV, providing me
> with a
> >>>> very big screen to do any kind of work, like a big spreadsheet or
> anything.
> >>>> This solution is already readily available in Synergy, which is
> available
> >>>> for OS X, Windows, GNU/Linux, meaning that any laptop can easily be
> used for
> >>>> this as long as Synergy is running on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be nice if you could use tablets for this as well, at least
> as
> >>>> a mouse and keyboard for the TV, but the TV should also be able to
> display
> >>>> things on the tablet in that case.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think?
> >>>>
> >>>> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> >>>>
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>
> Ugh. Can we get rid of the idea of logging into your TV? As we
> discussed at UDS, nobody wants to login to the TV. It takes too long
> and difficult to do on a remote. For age appropriate content, I say we
> stick with the PIN idea. This should be an appliance, not a full
> desktop replacement.
>
> --
> Thomas Mashos
>