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[Brian Freytag <brifreytag@xxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Judd on this.

We wouldn't be where we are today if Mr. Paul Tagliamonte hadn't just
made a bunch of executive decisions. He had a mission and he made it
happen by being a true leader. I've attended a couple CA IRC meetings
back when I was lead of the C-bus ReLoCo and they have no real
governmental structure, and they are just a mess because they don't
have anyone telling them what to do. While I agree with many of the
"socialist" ideals of F/OSS, delegation seems to be the only thing
keeping people truly motivated.

There are leaders and there are followers. Some people don't really
care what happens. They happy contributing, but they need to be
directed or they won't be comfortable making that decision.

Then you have the situations where there is dissent on a subject
matter. People don't like to argue, so everyone just gives up on the
matter. It could be a really important matter that just gets dropped
off the map because nobody in a leadership position says, "Here's what
we're going to do... if you don't like it, bit me." Naturally, most
matters can be discussed and decided via mobs without much dissent.
It's when an important matter arises and nobody can agree when
somebody needs to stand up make the decision.

Brian Freytag
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Judd Storrs <jstorrs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:32 PM, The Erk <incredulouserk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I absolutely, vehemently, with jello, disagree.  To function properly as a
>> group there needs to be little leadership and chain of command.  Community
>> and peer is what makes us strong.  Businesses and governments run with
>> strong leadership and chain of command.. and look how well that works out.
>
> Hierarchical structures do have advantages, particularly for managing
> limited resources. Sometimes mobs don't work out so well.
>
>
> --judd
>