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["Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> On 02/08/15 19:23, Patrik Bubák wrote:
> > Hey Tim,
> >
> > the reason behind this wallpaper being branded is part of introducing
> one of the major changes to the distribution - the change of the logo.
> > We always can, however, include it without it being the default and
> people can opt to use it from the backgrounds menu.
> I'm not convinced that plastering the new logo across everyones desktops
> will help this much, people will make the association pretty quickly
> once they see the plymouth screen, and then presumably a logo on the login
> screen.


Just to let you all know, I do see the point of both Tim and Patrik here
and I do agree with both at the same time. However, I attend to agree with
Tim's point more. For me, I do hate (to be super honest) to see a logo on
the default wallpaper BUT it won't kill us nor anyone if we shall do it for
once, only. That means, for 15.10 only :)

With 16.04, the default wallpaper should have no logo nor Ubuntu GNOME in
there, IMHO.



> But really that is just my opinion and its up to you guys to
> make the actual decisions on this.
>

Yes.
The reason why there is an Artwork Sub-Team is to do each and everything
related to Ubuntu GNOME Artwork. Myself and Tim can only share our opinion
;)
We do trust you guys so please, dazzle us!

Even for planning, I don't really have to do your homework :P


> >
> > On the other hand it's nothing uncommon - Xubuntu does the same. Many of
> their blueish wallpapers have been featuring the logo in the past and
> > continue to do so today.
> And many distros have moved away from doing this, in fact ubuntu itself
> was probably one of the first to go with a recurring theme, but not
> plastered with branding.
>

@Artwork Team.
I strongly agree with Tim here. I do hate to copy others. I was born
original, I won't die as a copy.
It is okay to learn from others and get inspired but doing the same as they
do? that is now how/where I want to see Ubuntu GNOME is heading :)



> >
> > For Plymouth we have something more subtle to smoothen the transition. I
> think when I say this I speak for everyone, that we don't want to
> > disrupt the current paradigm too much, but slight cosmetic upgrades here
> and there won't hurt anyone, conversely, we believe users would
> > welcome them, since the default Gnome setup seems quite dated and most
> users change most stuff after install (wallpapers, icons, themes...).
> the GNOME wallpapers have evolved significantly over the last couple of
> years, if they were still using the blue blinds of the 3.8 era, then I
> would call them dated.  But that is pretty irrelevant to this discussion,
> I have no issue with us using a different wallpaper(s).
>

I agree with Tim, yet again.



> >
> > To give you a better idea of what we were thinking about I'm attaching a
> screenshot. It has not yet been decided, but we're talking about it.
> Now that we have systemd init, it might be possible to use a proper
> progress indicator (i,e 0 - 100%), rather than the recurring/cycling dots. I
> know fedora do this. The problem before with upstart was that we never
> accurately knew how far through the boot we were.
>

Great idea and yet again, you're scaring me Tim :P stay away from by brain,
dammit hehe :P

In short, I am sick and tired of the dots :P


> >
> > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 19:12 +1000, Tim wrote:
> >> Hi Patrik,
> >>   That looks awesome, however I am not really a fan of having branded
> wallpapers, but really its the artwork's team call on whether to use it.
> >> Perhaps you could use some variant of it for the plymouth (boot) screen?
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On 02/08/15 08:07, Patrik Bubák wrote:
> >> > Gents,
> >> >
> >> > I would be thrilled if this <
> https://www.behance.net/gallery/28367327/Icy-Abstract> would be our
> official welcome screen (default) wallpaper
> >> > in the upcoming release. It's a modified version of the previous one
> I sent you, a lot cooler, a lot more powerful.
> >> >
> >> > Enjoy...
> >> > --
> >> > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from
> Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
> >> >
> >> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it
> the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one
> >> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is
> going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on
> >> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from
> Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
> >
> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it
> the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one
> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going
> to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on
> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
> >
>
>


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