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Re: It is time
Now you got me thinking Ali, that perhaps if you contacted them directly
it might speed things up for us a bit. I have no idea how they work,
because I joined in November last year only, but I trust Alfredo, so
when he says they are slow, then they are.
> I have 'no' problem but .. what is the chance, if any, they might
> disagree? will that change anything whatsoever?
I understand and agree, but as we thought about it, the new logo
eliminates all confusion, so we don't know what is it for them to
"approve". Maybe only if they weren't OK with us using the word "GNOME"
in our name at all, only that would change everything, but that would
give us also very little time to change the entire concept again,
because creating a logo is not an easy process as many of our community
members like to think. It involves extensive research and evaluation
before we may proceed with the conversion of gathered ideas onto canvas
and digital and then presenting it to you and Tim and then go public.
At our pace, this could take months, which would mean that we would have
to use their logo longer, which they would not be happy with.
On Mon, 2015-08-31 at 16:09 +1000, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> Hi Patrik,
>
>
> Thanks for your reply :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Patrik Bubák
> <bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Alfredo mentioned, that the Gnome board usually works very
> slow and if we'd wait for them we would wait quite long since
> they have their own things to take care of and it might be
> long overdue our release of 15.10 before they respond. We
> would like to make it on time.
>
>
> As if we're super fast :P just kidding :D
>
> I know that, I see your point. I understand :)
>
>
>
> It would also look very awkward when everyone talks about it,
> but no word is heard from us.
>
>
>
> Again, OMG Ubuntu is 'not' the official source of information, at
> least for Ubuntu GNOME and have zero authority to speak on our behalf.
>
>
> Just want to make sure everyone here knows this fact ;)
>
>
>
> We talked about it and concluded, that there is not much for
> them to approve. They in fact can be glad, that we are no
> longer using their logo to represent ourselves, because the
> roundel was causing the headache and the new roundel
> eliminates all confusion when used as a standalone, which was
> the main goal of this project.
>
> In the end it is not for them to decide what we choose to use
> as our logo unless it is somehow in conflict, which it was
> until now, but not any more.
>
> The "GNOME" wordmark, that has been discussed is without a
> change and something they agreed on before. This change is
> primarily about the roundel with which we are doing them a
> favour.
>
>
>
> I have 'no' problem but .. what is the chance, if any, they might
> disagree? will that change anything whatsoever?
>
>
> You see, I am just trying to avoid some unnecessary unwanted events,
> that's all.
>
>
>
> If you need to wait for a statement from Alfredo then all
> right, wait until tomorrow at least because he is travelling,
> but you'll hear the same from him.
>
>
>
> You guys are one team :) all of us are one family. It is not that I
> want to hear it from someone else as much as I want to avoid any
> problems of any kind. I do love to see Ubuntu GNOME as an example that
> others can follow gladly and proudly.
>
>
> After all, I am glad that we're working as one team and communication
> of the artwork sub-team has improved a lot lately so well done :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2015-08-31 at 13:42 +1000, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Patrik Bubák
> > <bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Waiting for word from Keith who already started
> > working on an announcement.
> >
> >
> >
> > OMG Ubuntu is very well-known of jumping and sharing
> > information that the official project/community did not yet
> > announce and despite how many times, myself and others have
> > talked to them, they decided to ignore it and do what they
> > like :)
> >
> >
> > That said, I care less about them sharing that :)
> >
> >
> > What I do care about is:
> >
> > What happened between us and GNOME? did they approve it? all
> > set? what else needed? only the official announcement?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent on the go 🙋
> >
> > On 31 Aug 2015 2:02 am, Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30/08/15 22:12, Patrik Bubák wrote:
> > > >
> > https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/637950981347651585
> > > >
> > > > OMGUbuntu has started tweeting about the new
> > logo and WOGUE posted a status update about it some
> > time ago.
> > > >
> > > > I think it would be only appropriate if we
> > released an official statement.
> > > Patrik, sure go for it!
> > > > --
> > > > Sent using Evolution
> > <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from Ubuntu
> > <http://ubuntu.com/desktop>
> > > >
> > > > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices
> > weighing in. We call it the /Ice Cream Principle/.
> > Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one
> > > > condition: they all have to agree on one
> > flavour. That flavour is going to be chocolate or
> > vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on
> > > > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's
> > easy to agree on.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Ali/amjjawad
> >
> > http://kibo.computer - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME
> >
>
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>
--
Sent using Evolution from Ubuntu
Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it
the Ice Cream Principle. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one
condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going
to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on
what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
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