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[Satyajit Sahoo <satyajit.happy@xxxxxxxxx>]

lol, I'm an Indian and I've no idea what are you talking about.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015, 18:05 Serge Wagner <sergew1967@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> PS: do not misunderstand me :
> You are doing a great job :) (although
>
> And this "nazi" feeling - it's probably simply coming from the circular
> turning of a shape consisting of 2s (without glasses)
>
> I have probably about 15-20 years more than you - i noticed it as i said
> yesterday
>
> And controlling with 4 persons (my mother , her friend and 3 friend of
> mine - 3 as said  had that strange feeling that something is wrong ... i
> cannot explain it differently
>
> An of course the sign of Swastika - you also find it in the greek , in the
> roman - even in the persian , indian - and jewish ciulture
>
> I wanted to post this comment for following reason:
> the old gnome logo was simply neat
>
> This here could lead - even only by a small (older) kind of users - to
> this interpretation - (mostly in Europe)
>
> Do you remember the discussion about the clockwise - or counter-clockwise
> turning of the please-wait-bubble in ubuntu - was it unbuntu 11 .04 or so ?
>
> If i remember well it were indian users that told the devels that a
> counter-clock turning poing would bring ba luck   (or something like that,
> can't remember exactly)
>
> Serge
>
> On Wednesday, 2 September 2015, Patrik Bubák <bubapa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi and thank you for the feedback.
>>
>> I am the author of the new logo for Ubuntu GNOME and your observation is
>> quite surprising, because that is something none of us would ever think
>> about and we had a look at the logo from many angles many times.
>>
>> Even now when I look at it I see absolutely no reference to neither the
>> Swastika - that argument I find absurd the least - nor anything that would
>> relate it in any way to the war crimes of Nazi Germany.
>>
>> I am short sighted, wearing glasses for many years, but I don't see
>> anything of what you see and even though I'm born in '83 and am perhaps
>> more aware of history than most of my generation I simply cannot make the
>> connections you are describing here.
>>
>> My point is, everyone has a different perspective on things and it's
>> humanly impossible to indulge everyone's request. Perhaps some people from
>> your generation might perceive it that way but generations to come might
>> not see not even with a slight hint of what you're seeing in it.
>>
>> *When you ask someone from your generation what do they see it in
>> mentioning to them what you see they will of course agree, because **they
>> will be inclined to see the same**.*
>>
>> Also, it's humanly impossible for a designer to keep track of absolutely
>> every symbol ever invented in human history. That just cannot be done, as
>> new symbols emerge practically every day, it's as simple as that, drawing
>> lines on a canvas.
>>
>> There are thousands of symbols, so I apologize if we cannot indulge
>> everyone, but we really cannot. Nobody can.
>>
>> On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 12:38 +0200, Serge Wagner wrote:
>>
>> First of all - compliments to all the work that has been done the last
>> time
>>
>>
>> i A lot of work as been passed on small details
>>
>>
>> JUST one thinhg - tat i really do not think, that it will pass well
>>
>>
>> the new gnome logo  or the sign for running applications
>>
>>
>> Want to try to explain why: I am born in 1967 - so far aftr the 2nd world
>> war
>>
>> With 48 what begins to get bad are the eyes - without reading glasses
>> sharpness is only a dream ;)
>>
>> Last time when i came back to my computer - without my reading glasses
>> and i saw the new logo in the middle of the standby screen  - i thougt -
>> now they have chosen a swastika (Hakenkreuz) as logo!
>>
>>
>>
>> OK on second view you see of course that it is not THAT logo
>>
>>
>> I was wondering i was the only one that did this interpretation of the
>> logo
>>
>> I asked now 5 other people - from 40 to 76 - 3 persons - all
>> wearingreading glasses - all  without glasses on their nose were thinking
>> immediately to the nazi-sign ....
>>
>>
>>
>> Although i admire the work of the artist - i am sure he (or she) did not
>> think about the visible interpretation the moment you forgot you
>> spectacles
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it the *Ice
>> Cream Principle*. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one condition:
>> they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be
>> chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on what's
>> cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on.
>>
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