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[Phong Cao <phngcv@xxxxxxxxx>]

What I am talking about here is SWITCHING and MANAGING applications, not
OPENING applications. In Shell I just need ONE CLICK to manage ALL OF MY 9
WINDOWS.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Evan Huus <eapache@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Phong Cao <phngcv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > About Unity & Gnome Shell... none of them is better than the other. It
> > depends on the users.
> > I am the kind of user that never open less than 5 windows at a time.
> >
> > As I explained above:
> > 1. Try to open 3 maximized windows of Chrome, 3 maximized windows of
> > LibreOffice, 2 Terminal windows and 1 Nautilus window.
> > 2. Now switch between the windows of different applications. You can
> easily
> > see that:
> > - In Gnome Shell: I hover the mouse to the top-left, which takes almost 1
> > second. Then all 9 windows are shown on the screen for me to choose from.
> > This makes things simple and easier.
> > - In Unity:
> > + The best way to switch between applications in Unity is using the
> > keyboard.
> > + Other than that, I will have to hover the mouse to the left and then
> > "guess" "Where is my Chrome/Terminal/LibreOffice icon?" to click on.
> > + This causes lots of confusion and time consuming since everytime I want
> to
> > switch between DIFFERENT applications I have to "guess" the icon position
> > again.
> > + This should not be a problem if you keep the left panel always visible.
> > However, Gnome Shell does not sacrifice any horizontal screen space and
> > still achieve the result I need.
>
> There is perhaps a design flaw in Unity that this feature is not more
> discoverable, but if you move your mouse to the top-left corner then
> the launcher appears on top so you don't have to guess. This makes the
> process almost identical to that of Gnome Shell:
>
> 1) Move mouse to top left
> 2) Pick application/window
>
> regardless of whether you're using Unity or shell.
>
> > Lastly, please do not use the age of Unity as an excuse. I am tired of
> > people saying that "Because Unity is just ... months old and Gnome Shell
> has
> > been.... decades old so Gnome Shell is better".
> > Gnome Shell will always be older than Unity and Unity will always use
> this
> > statement as an excuse for its weaknesses. Unity will hardly improve if
> its
> > developers use age to say it is better or worse than Shell.
> > Weaknesses do not come from age. They come from the design philosophy of
> the
> > developers.
> > If the philosophy is wrong from the start and left unchanged, Unity will
> > hardly gets any better regardless of its age.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Shane Fagan <
> shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Phong Cao <phngcv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > I am too have been for a long time a Ubuntu's fan. However, I am not
> >> > trying
> >> > to be negative but... I would say that Unity's design is way far
> behind
> >> > GNOME Shell in Fedora 15. I recommend anybody in this email list try
> out
> >> > Fedora 15 & GNOME Shell and learn from their simplicity. (Just my
> >> > thought,
> >> > no offense). After couple days get along with Fedora 15 & GNOME Shell
> I
> >> > feel
> >> > that GNOME Shell is more newbie-friendly and productive than Unity. I
> >> > think
> >> > Ubuntu should reconsider going back to GNOME...
> >>
> >> Ok im not being negative or anything but both emails you put in on
> >> this thread haven't explained why you think shell is better.
> >> Also it has to be said that Unity (compiz) isn't around very long
> >> compared to Shell since it was made for 3 years and all and
> >> Unity compiz anyway is only 6 months of work ish. The reason why im
> >> mentioning that is there are still many many changes
> >> and iterations to come for Unity in which it will get better. What you
> >> can bank on though is Unity is faster and more stable.
> >>
> >> The cool things about Shell are the really nice looking animations on
> >> things there is a lot of nice finishes on everything and
> >> that stuff comes with time. In terms of Unity and why it is better is
> >> the simplicity you can do a lot more with the search in the
> >> dash than you can with Shell and the sky is the limit on lenses and
> >> all that nice stuff.
> >>
> >> --fagan
> >
> >
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