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Message #06354
Re: Unity2D -- wow! (And hidden window buttons)
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To:
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From:
Jo-Erlend Schinstad <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:20:15 +0200
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Den 27. aug. 2011 06:24, skrev André Oliva:
Really I think its oversimplification of things. Not everyone wants an
"elementary-style" OS GUI, really. Simply there is a limit in
simplification of things. I simply don't understand the reason for
oversimplification. People simply don't want fullscreen in every
application they work. I remember that Unity was first created for
space efficiency. But really, there is **a lot** of space now. Why
hide important things like window controls and Ubuntu button? Things
that are common for a lot of operating systems...
Explain why it is oversimplifying to not show everything that can be shown?
Why are menus collapsed, for instance? Isn't that oversimplifying the UI?
How are people ever going to understand that menus can be used if they
aren't shown? Perhaps we should have blinking arrows pointing at them
and a voice that keeps repeating a message every fifteen minutes:
«You can click on menus to open them». That way people won't forget.
No. You can keep using the word oversimplify as often as you like, but it
doesn't become anymore real. What I would like to hear, is a very good
explanation of why it is important to show buttons that cannot be used.
Because it really is not possible to click a button without having the mouse
close to where you're clicking. Your argument that the buttons need to be
visible because they are visible in Windows, is not a valid argument. First
of all, because they haven't always been that way.
I think it's much more useful to see the title of the page you're currently
reading than it is to show me the buttons for eight hours a day, six days
a week. Do you really feel that a normal person won't be able to
remember that the buttons are always in the upper left corner? Then
how are they able to use the computer at all? I mean... They would
also forget where the button is to power on the computer.
However, remembering the title of the page you are reading, requires
much more mental capacity. Do you really disagree with that?
Jo-Erlend Schinstad
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