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["Stefanos A." <stapostol@xxxxxxxxx>]

2011/8/29 Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@xxxxxxxxxx>

> On 29 August 2011 03:06, Stefanos A. <stapostol@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > This is Firefox's problem, not ours. The same information is available on
> > the address bar and the tab text - i.e. Firefox *triplicates* this
> > information. I don't think Unity should focus on the design issues of
> > 3rd-party apps (because if it did, things like the global-menu wouldn't
> even
> > be an option).
>
> No, the full webpage title is only available if you mouse over the
> tab. There is not enough space on the tab to show full webpage titles
> on many websites.
>

(a) Why do you need the complete webpage title to be always visible?
(b) Mozilla has already removed website titles from their windows version.
The complete title is available only on mouse-over.
(c) Mozilla are working to improve the situation by displaying only the
important parts of the title in the tab.


>
> Ubuntu absolutely should care about apps like Firefox, Epiphany,
> Chromium, LibreOffice, eog, totem, and many others which use the
> window title to present important information. Sorry, but you can't
> just suddenly declare window titles obsolete as a lot of apps use
> them.
>
>
I certainly did not declare anything obsolete. Google did that first, with
Chrome which doesn't doesn't display webpage titles *at all*. Opera and
Mozilla followed next. Libreoffice and eog display the filename, which is
usually small enough to fit in a reduced title bar (as per the OP's
screenshots). Totem does the same, but also provides the same information in
the playback list making the title unnecessary.

I do believe you need to find better examples than those. It appears to me
that applications are slowly moving away from display important information
on the titlebar.

I wonder what the HIG has to say on this topic.