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Re: Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

 

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On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Gino Vincenzini <
openmysourcecode@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Might I submit for your reading:
> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Sheets/Sheets.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/10000002-BABFIBIA
> I'm sick of people criticizing any software for copying even one feature
> from the same company whose leader is quoted as saying that shamelessly
> their company steals ideas (Apple: Steve Jobs). It's one thing when it's
> windows vista and every single one of their new features can be traced back
> to apple and Mac OS X, but let's not forget that the GUI on the original Mac
> OS came from none other than Xerox (granted Mac OS X compensated Xerox in
> stock, we are writing an open source system) If an idea is good, let's take
> it and march forward, I would love to see an easy to access run box, which
> expands like a sheet into a terminal window... let's make the window
> detachable, add a checkbox called "watch" which repeatedly runs the command
> and shows the watch output in that window.... let's make simple things
> simple and out of the way, and bigger more complicated things possible
> (Thanks apple :D ).
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Naba Kumar <naba.kumar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
>> <mikkel.kamstrup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 09/22/2011 08:46 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
>> >>>
>> >>> Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm
>> directly from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this
>> functionality who doesn't have a terminal open all of the time anyway?
>> >>
>> >> rm is a bad example. But being able to restart compiz using "compiz
>> --replace" without opening a terminal and running "nohup compiz --replace"
>> is a good reason to keep it around. Or to quickly open a root nautilus.
>> (Which itself is an example of situations when it should not be necessary to
>> run a command) Stuff like that.
>> >
>> > Just for historic reference: The Alt-F2 mode in Unity was added because
>> there was a *major* uproar from users that it was gone, when we transitioned
>> from the Gnome2 panel. So we added it back.
>> >
>> My original thought was about having the two be approached
>> consistently. The functionality of Alt-F2 is still useful, especially
>> when taking command parameters, like others have pointed. Even without
>> them, at least out of habit :).
>>
>> Approaching the two by the user consistently, meaning not to think
>> what to use when launching "text editor", "gedit", "gedit ~/file.txt",
>> "gedit -s". All 4 is used to launch a text editor in varying ways, but
>> first 2 work with dash-search and last 3 work with current alt-f2
>> implementation.
>>
>> One can divide the launches between "standard" vs "advanced" ways and
>> have 2 separate interfaces dealing with them - which is what is done
>> currently and is what others have pointed out.
>>
>> But what is there to lose if the two are done through same interface -
>> without any lose of functionality of either? Some subtle difference
>> between the two can be brought in, such as like  joerlend suggested
>> with "~". Or, having no difference in the input, but instead
>> additional command-prefix completion is shown below (lens?) in
>> addition to the free text search results - such that input is both
>> treated as case insensitive free form search + case sensitive command
>> pre-fix search.
>>
>> This will save some metal taxing on the users (note: it wasn't
>> difficult to pick before because I only had to choose alt-f2).
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Naba
>>
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