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Re: Organizing Whube Team

 

This is some good conversation right here.

I agree, we are a mess. So, let's work this out.

both tenach and stlsaint -- come up with a ( short ) gameplan ( each )
and we'll use those to make the decision on where to go. I think it's
good to review all the choices we can.

-Tag

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:49 AM, matthew byers <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I fully agree with ya! Majority input takes precedence!
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin
> <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> A project management system is just one way to go about it.  If the
>> majority of the team wanted to use one, I would be for it.  It really comes
>> down to what the team wants vs. what the individual wants.
>>
>> Thomas Plastino Martin
>> https://launchpad.net/~tenach
>> http://tenach.net
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:16 PM, matthew byers <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Alright so if we are not going to go with idea of a pms than
>>> we definitely need a "central" hub of location. As you said, mailing list,
>>> irc, lp, git, docs, all these have different uses and yet we really don't
>>> interact as a team. Docs team wont talk to devs, etc etc. But then again we
>>> do have irc so maybe that can be our communication but what if decisions are
>>> made there when someone isn't there?? Tenach brings up a valid point of
>>> turning whube.com into something more for our hub. I like the idea of
>>> customizing and developing whube.com to be our tools/info page. But i will
>>> say this for the last time is that in my mind, a pms is looking real handy
>>> right now but i have no shame in learning the best practices for a team.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin
>>> <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> According to Launchpad, we use it for 'Answers'
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Plastino Martin
>>>> https://launchpad.net/~tenach
>>>> http://tenach.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin
>>>> <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://bugs.whube.com - our own bug tracking.
>>>>> http://github.com/whube/whube - our source code versioning
>>>>> http://launchpad.net/whube - blueprints, and some other stuff. I'm
>>>>> confused about LP (for whube and in general).
>>>>> http://docs.whube.com - A wiki for documentation and other
>>>>> whube-related information
>>>>>
>>>>> These are all that I know of besides my +1 version of Whube at
>>>>> http://bugs.thescoundrels.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Plastino Martin
>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~tenach
>>>>> http://tenach.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM, David Wonderly
>>>>> <david.wonderly@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, as I was saying I need the locations of all of the Status reports,
>>>>>> TODO
>>>>>> List, tasking etc we have littered throughout the place. If you have a
>>>>>> created
>>>>>> anything regarding this please send it to me. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -DW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:27:08 pm Thomas Plastino Martin
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > I've never until today heard of Codendi (Codeni is completely
>>>>>> > different and
>>>>>> > not related to project management).  It looks interesting.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We have docs.whube for wiki/documentaiton, we have launchpad for
>>>>>> > blueprints
>>>>>> > and other things, whube itself for bug tracking... I think we need
>>>>>> > to use
>>>>>> > what we have instead of looking for a larger project to use.
>>>>>> >  Between
>>>>>> > those, IRC and this list, I think we can obtain any goals we set for
>>>>>> > ourselves.  We just need to apply ourselves to more "doing", and not
>>>>>> > just
>>>>>> > talking about doing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thomas Plastino Martin
>>>>>> > https://launchpad.net/~tenach <https://launchpad.net/%7Etenach>
>>>>>> > http://tenach.net
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, matthew byers
>>>>>> <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>> > > Alright so i would like to nominate: Codeni community version. It
>>>>>> > > is full
>>>>>> > > of modifiable features and is stable. I really like the idea of a
>>>>>> > > "all in
>>>>>> > > one" type of system which is why i like the larger applications.
>>>>>> > > But as i
>>>>>> > > spoke with tenach who has more experience in this area than i do
>>>>>> > > he
>>>>>> > > pointed out that maybe we dont need the large applications. But i
>>>>>> > > cant
>>>>>> > > help but notice all the features the larger platforms offer. I am
>>>>>> > > a fan
>>>>>> > > of the wiki/doc additions, plus the repository feature as the GIT
>>>>>> > > module
>>>>>> > > is added to the new release of codeni. I have attached the
>>>>>> > > brochure
>>>>>> > > explaining more on this option. Either way i feel we need
>>>>>> > > something. Be
>>>>>> > > it collabtiv or codeni or whatever. Whube needs some
>>>>>> > > organization!!!
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin <
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> Ah, Redmine! I totally forgot about that Rails app.  We were, for
>>>>>> > >> about
>>>>>> > >> four months, using Redmine as our main project management system
>>>>>> > >> in my
>>>>>> > >> business.  We had migrated over from Trac which was not fitting
>>>>>> > >> our
>>>>>> > >> needs. While Redmine had some awesome features and it was working
>>>>>> > >> pretty well for us, it had a lot of excess built right in.  I do
>>>>>> > >> not
>>>>>> > >> know exactly what was causing it, but either Redmine and/or Ruby
>>>>>> > >> on
>>>>>> > >> Rails was not working as it should, and I often found myself
>>>>>> > >> having to
>>>>>> > >> fix Redmine so we could continue to log in and use it.  After
>>>>>> > >> four
>>>>>> > >> months we migrated to Collabtiv, which was much smaller in terms
>>>>>> > >> of
>>>>>> > >> built in features, but suited us a little better. We used that up
>>>>>> > >> until
>>>>>> > >> we split, and now I don't really use any yet.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> If we were to go this route, I'd vote for Collabtiv unless we
>>>>>> > >> find
>>>>>> > >> something better.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Thomas Plastino Martin
>>>>>> > >> https://launchpad.net/~tenach <https://launchpad.net/%7Etenach>
>>>>>> > >> http://tenach.net
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:47 PM, matthew byers
>>>>>> <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>> > >>> This issue occured to me today as i was going through some whube
>>>>>> > >>> pages
>>>>>> > >>> in my bookmarks and realized i had over 6 seperate pages of
>>>>>> > >>> whube
>>>>>> > >>> stuff trying to juggle. Thus the idea of project management came
>>>>>> > >>> up
>>>>>> > >>> and tenach felt the same way i did. Though i dont speak for
>>>>>> > >>> everyone i
>>>>>> > >>> feel as if those who are not direct devs of whube are not in the
>>>>>> > >>> loop
>>>>>> > >>> as to the "status" of whube. And i really dont know when its my
>>>>>> > >>> turn
>>>>>> > >>> as the wiki guy to jump in and turn out some docs. With some
>>>>>> > >>> sort of
>>>>>> > >>> project management system we all can be on one accord  as tenach
>>>>>> > >>> has
>>>>>> > >>> already described. Doing some research i came across redmine and
>>>>>> > >>> though i have never used it it looks really feature rich.
>>>>>> > >>> http://www.redmine.org/
>>>>>> > >>> http://www.redmine.org/wiki/redmine/Features
>>>>>> > >>> With redmine we manage repos from git and other version
>>>>>> > >>> controls, setup
>>>>>> > >>> wiki/docs, track bugs and whube feature additions, assign
>>>>>> > >>> teams/roles
>>>>>> > >>> and we do this all in one location as they get organized and
>>>>>> > >>> setup
>>>>>> > >>> then when they are all pretty and ready for the world we migrate
>>>>>> > >>> them
>>>>>> > >>> to their appropriate web pages: ie: bugs.whube, docs.whube, etc.
>>>>>> > >>> We
>>>>>> > >>> already have a project manager so he can head up the project
>>>>>> > >>> management system! Just my thoughts....
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Thomas Plastino Martin <
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> tenach@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> We need to organize Whube in a serious manner.  At present we
>>>>>> > >>>> do not
>>>>>> > >>>> have a solid goal for the future past our list for DD.  This
>>>>>> > >>>> team is
>>>>>> > >>>> growing and now we're in need of some sort of system in place
>>>>>> > >>>> where
>>>>>> > >>>> we can all stay 'in the loop'.  So far we have docs.whube,
>>>>>> > >>>> bugs.whube
>>>>>> > >>>> and Launchpad.  I think that we need to start actively putting
>>>>>> > >>>> our
>>>>>> > >>>> team organization together, so that we all know who is doing
>>>>>> > >>>> what,
>>>>>> > >>>> where we're going, etc.
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> stlsaint suggested using a project management system like Pier.
>>>>>> > >>>>  I
>>>>>> > >>>> have only really worked with Trac and Collabtiv, both of which
>>>>>> > >>>> I am
>>>>>> > >>>> not too fond of (I prefer Collabtiv over Trac any day though).
>>>>>> > >>>>  I
>>>>>> > >>>> think it might be a good idea, though I was under the
>>>>>> > >>>> impression we
>>>>>> > >>>> were going to use Launchpad for team stuff, such as
>>>>>> > >>>> milestones/blueprints/whatnot.  However, this confuses me.
>>>>>> > >>>> Launchpad
>>>>>> > >>>> is confusing too.
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Anyway.  What are we going to do?
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> * We need to have an outline for the future of Whube.
>>>>>> > >>>> * We should state clearly how we are going to use Launchpad,
>>>>>> > >>>> and use
>>>>>> > >>>> it as such.
>>>>>> > >>>> * There is more, but I do not remember off the top of my head
>>>>>> > >>>> at the
>>>>>> > >>>> moment.
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Whube has potential to be awesome, we just need to realize the
>>>>>> > >>>> path
>>>>>> > >>>> and figure out exactly how we are going to go about it.  I
>>>>>> > >>>> think that
>>>>>> > >>>> the days of freeform coding are (mostly) over, at least until
>>>>>> > >>>> we have
>>>>>> > >>>> a solid understanding of everyone's contributions.
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.  Hopefully I'm not way
>>>>>> > >>>> off
>>>>>> > >>>> base with this.
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Thomas Plastino Martin
>>>>>> > >>>> https://launchpad.net/~tenach <https://launchpad.net/%7Etenach>
>>>>>> > >>>> http://tenach.net
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> > >>> --
>>>>>> > >>> God Bless
>>>>>> > >>>
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>>>>>> > > --
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>>>>>> > >
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