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[Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>]

Out of curiosity, where are you working, Dave?

Knut

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Dave Trombley <dave.trombley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>   Ah, thanks for the informative replies!   One of the problems I was having
> was that I was using the latest snapshot compiled from bzr and not the
> latest release, and the data element edit screen is completely different!
> Is there a way to do this currently in the current dev. branch?  (We've
> already switched our proof-of-concept to the current release version, so
> this is making a lot more sense now following your advice and the user
> manual, which was confusing us in relation to the snapshot!)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <olati@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>> I recommend reading the following parts of the user manual:
>> - chapter 4 on Data Elements
>> - chapter 5 on Data Sets and Forms
>> - chapter 19 - Data Dimensions in DHIS 2, especially sections 19.2 The
>> data element dimension, and section 19.8 "From paper forms to
>> multidimensional data sets - lessons learned"
>> Just to add to what Jason wrote:
>> Category combinations are linked to individual data elements, not data
>> sets or sections.
>> If your forms consists of multiple tables (with or without different
>> column headings) you can split a data set into multiple sections with _1_
>> category combination (and a subset of the dataset's data elements - all
>> sharing the same category combo) for each section. Then your section form
>> design will automatically reflect the tables/sections in your paper form
>> (given that the category options are on columns and data elements on rows).
>> If you need to design an electronic form that e.g. has data elements on
>> columns and category options on rows or combining multiple category
>> combinations on columns in the same table you need to go for custom forms.
>> Although the category combinations simplifies how you design forms I
>> recommend thinking about how the data will be used in analysis and
>> presentation after the data has been collected, e.g. how aggregation will
>> take place,  and let that guide how you design data elements and categories,
>> and not let  the data entry form structure control that. The total and
>> subtotal of data elements are used in many data analysis components (such as
>> validation rules, indicators, reports, pivot tables) and it is definitely an
>> advantage if the total of the data element's category options add up to
>> something meaningful and is not just picked to mimic column headings in a
>> form.  Many more thoughts and examples on this in section 19.8 in the
>> manual.
>> We also have some very fresh material on this topic from a recent
>> workshop, which you can find here (look under Tuesday and the session called
>> "Design of data elements and data sets"):
>> http://www.hisp.uio.no/events/201102-impl-workshop/programme2.html
>>
>> Ola
>> ---------
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr)
>> HISP
>> Department of Informatics
>> University of Oslo
>>
>> Mobile: +47 48069736
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>>
>> On 18 February 2011 18:02, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> Welcome!
>>>
>>> Its is a bit confusing to me as well. Let me try and explain as best
>>> as I can. Others that understand the model may correct me.
>>>
>>>
>>> You need to create a "Concept". In this case, it would probably
>>> "Phase" as well.
>>>
>>>  You need to create categories. In your case this would be a "Phase".
>>>
>>> You need to create category options, "Phase A" and "Phase B" for the
>>> category "Phase".
>>>
>>> You need a "Data element category combination" as well. In your case,
>>> it would be "Phases" perhaps. If the data elements is further
>>> disaggregated by categories "Age" and "Gender" you could add these
>>> categories as well.
>>>
>>> Finally , you need a data element "Number of patients testing positive
>>> for disease X"  assigned tp "Combination of categories"
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dave Trombley <dave.trombley@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >    Hi all
>>> >
>>> >      I'm new to DHIS2, and going through the process of migrating a
>>> > paper
>>> > HMIS to a DHIS2 data schema.
>>> >
>>> >      I have a tabular data structure where I can identify the data
>>> > elements,
>>> > and the categories/dimensions of those elements.  Data elements are
>>> > such as
>>> > "Number of patients testing positive for disease X" and categories are
>>> > such
>>> > as "in phase A", "in Phase B", etc.
>>> >
>>> >      I'd like the data entry form to show up with different cells to
>>> > enter
>>> > "Number of patients testing positive (in phase A)" and "Number of
>>> > patients
>>> > testing positive (in phase B)", as it seems they should if the
>>> > categories
>>> > are defined.  However, I'm having trouble making this happen.
>>> >
>>> >      The documentation at several points makes references to "assigning
>>> > a
>>> > category to a data element" but I cannot find any place where it
>>> > described
>>> > how this is done, nor can I seem to make it happen after playing with
>>> > the
>>> > interface for about an hour.  This is all very confusing, and I'm
>>> > hoping
>>> > someone can explain how it works?
>>> >
>>> >     Do I need to create a category combo?  Why are category combos I
>>> > create
>>> > not showing up in the dataset section form's "category combo" dropdown,
>>> > ever?   Do categories associate with data elements or with (groups,
>>> > sets,
>>> > datasets, dataset sections), etc?  How do all of these entities relate?
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason P. Pickering
>>> email: jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
>>> tel:+260974901293
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Knut Staring