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Re: How to best implement registries

 

Dear Abyot

Yes that is a small one. The major problem creator is in the attachment.

Regards

Hannan
HISP Bangladesh​​

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Abyot Gizaw <abyota@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Hannan,
>
> Sorry that I haven't responded. can you please remind us what was reported
> - I can see this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/dhis2/+bug/1492967
>
> Do you have more?
>
>
> ---
> Thank you,
> Abyot.
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Hannan Khan <hannank@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Dear Prosper
>>
>> Yes you are right; new versions have some very good feature (Thanks to
>> Lars and the Team) which meet majority of the requirements and some are
>> done through discussion and alternative reporting.
>>
>> But converting from 13 to 21 is a big headache; we already done some
>> conversion from 13 to 19 but still there are some bugs already reported and
>> waiting for Abyot's response and I ask the Team to take our request
>> seriously, because we are under huge pressure from the MoH and development
>> partners. Also we face a lot of new issues due to huge data volume.
>>
>> Also orient large number of user on this new UI is another big issue.
>>
>> Hope we can soon upgrade one of the Biggest tracker to version 2.21
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Hannan
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hannan,
>>>
>>> Good to read from you hoping Bangladesh is treating you well.
>>>
>>> You can now use program indicators and create majority of the donor
>>> statistics, however you will need to upgrade to the latest versions atleast
>>> 2.20 or 2.21. You also need to have options sets to make meaningful
>>> indicator expressions.
>>>
>>> These program indicators will be used in pivot table, data visualizer...
>>>
>>> I think using 2.13 you are still using category combinations for option
>>> sets, am not sure how they are supported in indicators because I have not
>>> used them. You may need to overhaul the current 2.13 version to 2.20 and
>>> import the data with new options sets if you are using them.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Hannan Khan <hannank@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Knut
>>>>
>>>> Fully agree with Lars and Prosper.
>>>>
>>>> In our case we used 'Single Event without registration' (in version
>>>> 2.13) and now 'Event capture'. But producing report using aggregation query
>>>> is a headache as Donor requirements are varied widely. SO if you have any
>>>> idea share it with us. I attached our screenshot.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Hannan Khan
>>>> HISP Bangladesh
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Lars Helge Øverland <
>>>> larshelge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> yes for it to be valuable then disease and treatment must be coded
>>>>> (based on option sets).
>>>>>
>>>>> A major benefit of using events is that the age group aggregates could
>>>>> be produced ad-hoc using program indicators. So this will remove the need
>>>>> for pre-defined age groups. As we know these are hard to agree on, never
>>>>> consistent between countries and donors and always change over time, making
>>>>> them painful to manage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lars
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Kamugunga Adolphe <kaadol@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Knut,
>>>>>> The program without registration could fit in case they simply want
>>>>>> to record cases/services provided on daily basis.  Name should be dropped
>>>>>> for ethical issues and rely only on the Reg. But if database could support
>>>>>>  data quality audit exercises, serial number could help to locate patients
>>>>>> files, and selection boxes should the best to minimize typing/spelling
>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Adolphe Kamugunga*
>>>>>> *MIS Technical Advisor*
>>>>>> *Knowledge Management, Data Use and Research*
>>>>>> Rwanda Health System Strengthening Activity
>>>>>> Management Sciences for Health
>>>>>> Rwanda-Kigali
>>>>>> Mobile: +250 788 740 578
>>>>>> Email:kaadol@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Skype: ka.adolphe
>>>>>> <http://www.msh.org/>
>>>>>> Stronger health systems. Greater health impact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 November 2015 at 06:34, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Knut,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the purpose of data collection is for reporting through counts of
>>>>>>> number visiting and services in a given period and no interest in
>>>>>>> longitudinal follow up then they can go without registration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And as you suggest for non numeric data elements (findings,
>>>>>>> medicine....) need option sets, to build program indicators to be used on
>>>>>>> dashboard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please see the attached "line listing" case registry form for
>>>>>>>> outpatients at frontline clinics. Typically, this is the layout of big
>>>>>>>> registry books located at rural health centres and sub-centres. I suppose
>>>>>>>> the date and serial number would not be needed when moving from paper to
>>>>>>>> tablets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My intuitive sense is that this should be implemented as a program
>>>>>>>> without registration, and just one single stage. Most of the fields should
>>>>>>>> be free text or option sets (in the case of Yes/No that is a data type).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then it will be important to generate aggregate data based on this,
>>>>>>>> which I assume means we do need drop down lists/option sets for all
>>>>>>>> diseases and treatments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just wanted to see if people had different ideas and suggestions,
>>>>>>>> as this is becoming a pretty typical use case for Tracker.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Knut Staring
>>>>>>>> Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo
>>>>>>>> Norway: +4791880522
>>>>>>>> Skype: knutstar
>>>>>>>> http://dhis2.org
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>>>>>>> Global HISP| University Of Oslo/HISP Uganda
>>>>>>> +256 752 751 776 | +256 776 139 139
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lars Helge Øverland
>>>>> Lead developer, DHIS 2
>>>>> University of Oslo
>>>>> Skype: larshelgeoverland
>>>>> http://www.dhis2.org <https://www.dhis2.org>
>>>>>
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>>> --
>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>>> Global HISP| University Of Oslo/HISP Uganda
>>> +256 752 751 776 | +256 776 139 139
>>> ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx | prosper@xxxxxxxxx | Skype: prospertb
>>>
>>>
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