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[Abyot Gizaw <abyota@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Hannan,

Unique ID is quite tricky. In an ideal situation, it is better unique ID is
generated outside DHIS2 and feed to it.

The thing is we don't have a mechanism to tell DHIS2 how the ID should be
generated. Yes, we used to have a something that worked before - but it was
not-scalable.

Currently there is a discussion going on among developers here. We are
planning to introduce a model where one can specify a pattern of the unique
ID and the system will generate accordingly - we hope to have this for 2.23.


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Thank you,
Abyot.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Hannan Khan <hannank@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear Abyot
>
> Yes that is a small one. The major problem creator is in the attachment.
>
> Regards
>
> Hannan
> HISP Bangladesh​​
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Abyot Gizaw <abyota@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hannan,
>>
>> Sorry that I haven't responded. can you please remind us what was
>> reported - I can see this bug
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/dhis2/+bug/1492967
>>
>> Do you have more?
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Thank you,
>> Abyot.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Hannan Khan <hannank@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Prosper
>>>
>>> Yes you are right; new versions have some very good feature (Thanks to
>>> Lars and the Team) which meet majority of the requirements and some are
>>> done through discussion and alternative reporting.
>>>
>>> But converting from 13 to 21 is a big headache; we already done some
>>> conversion from 13 to 19 but still there are some bugs already reported and
>>> waiting for Abyot's response and I ask the Team to take our request
>>> seriously, because we are under huge pressure from the MoH and development
>>> partners. Also we face a lot of new issues due to huge data volume.
>>>
>>> Also orient large number of user on this new UI is another big issue.
>>>
>>> Hope we can soon upgrade one of the Biggest tracker to version 2.21
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Hannan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hannan,
>>>>
>>>> Good to read from you hoping Bangladesh is treating you well.
>>>>
>>>> You can now use program indicators and create majority of the donor
>>>> statistics, however you will need to upgrade to the latest versions atleast
>>>> 2.20 or 2.21. You also need to have options sets to make meaningful
>>>> indicator expressions.
>>>>
>>>> These program indicators will be used in pivot table, data visualizer...
>>>>
>>>> I think using 2.13 you are still using category combinations for option
>>>> sets, am not sure how they are supported in indicators because I have not
>>>> used them. You may need to overhaul the current 2.13 version to 2.20 and
>>>> import the data with new options sets if you are using them.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Hannan Khan <hannank@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Knut
>>>>>
>>>>> Fully agree with Lars and Prosper.
>>>>>
>>>>> In our case we used 'Single Event without registration' (in version
>>>>> 2.13) and now 'Event capture'. But producing report using aggregation query
>>>>> is a headache as Donor requirements are varied widely. SO if you have any
>>>>> idea share it with us. I attached our screenshot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Hannan Khan
>>>>> HISP Bangladesh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Lars Helge Øverland <
>>>>> larshelge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes for it to be valuable then disease and treatment must be coded
>>>>>> (based on option sets).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A major benefit of using events is that the age group aggregates
>>>>>> could be produced ad-hoc using program indicators. So this will remove the
>>>>>> need for pre-defined age groups. As we know these are hard to agree on,
>>>>>> never consistent between countries and donors and always change over time,
>>>>>> making them painful to manage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lars
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Kamugunga Adolphe <kaadol@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Knut,
>>>>>>> The program without registration could fit in case they simply want
>>>>>>> to record cases/services provided on daily basis.  Name should be dropped
>>>>>>> for ethical issues and rely only on the Reg. But if database could support
>>>>>>>  data quality audit exercises, serial number could help to locate patients
>>>>>>> files, and selection boxes should the best to minimize typing/spelling
>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Adolphe Kamugunga*
>>>>>>> *MIS Technical Advisor*
>>>>>>> *Knowledge Management, Data Use and Research*
>>>>>>> Rwanda Health System Strengthening Activity
>>>>>>> Management Sciences for Health
>>>>>>> Rwanda-Kigali
>>>>>>> Mobile: +250 788 740 578
>>>>>>> Email:kaadol@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Skype: ka.adolphe
>>>>>>> <http://www.msh.org/>
>>>>>>> Stronger health systems. Greater health impact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22 November 2015 at 06:34, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Knut,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the purpose of data collection is for reporting through counts
>>>>>>>> of number visiting and services in a given period and no interest in
>>>>>>>> longitudinal follow up then they can go without registration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And as you suggest for non numeric data elements (findings,
>>>>>>>> medicine....) need option sets, to build program indicators to be used on
>>>>>>>> dashboard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please see the attached "line listing" case registry form for
>>>>>>>>> outpatients at frontline clinics. Typically, this is the layout of big
>>>>>>>>> registry books located at rural health centres and sub-centres. I suppose
>>>>>>>>> the date and serial number would not be needed when moving from paper to
>>>>>>>>> tablets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My intuitive sense is that this should be implemented as a program
>>>>>>>>> without registration, and just one single stage. Most of the fields should
>>>>>>>>> be free text or option sets (in the case of Yes/No that is a data type).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then it will be important to generate aggregate data based on
>>>>>>>>> this, which I assume means we do need drop down lists/option sets for all
>>>>>>>>> diseases and treatments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to see if people had different ideas and suggestions,
>>>>>>>>> as this is becoming a pretty typical use case for Tracker.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Knut Staring
>>>>>>>>> Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo
>>>>>>>>> Norway: +4791880522
>>>>>>>>> Skype: knutstar
>>>>>>>>> http://dhis2.org
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>>>>>>>> Global HISP| University Of Oslo/HISP Uganda
>>>>>>>> +256 752 751 776 | +256 776 139 139
>>>>>>>> ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx | prosper@xxxxxxxxx | Skype: prospertb
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lars Helge Øverland
>>>>>> Lead developer, DHIS 2
>>>>>> University of Oslo
>>>>>> Skype: larshelgeoverland
>>>>>> http://www.dhis2.org <https://www.dhis2.org>
>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>>>> Global HISP| University Of Oslo/HISP Uganda
>>>> +256 752 751 776 | +256 776 139 139
>>>> ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx | prosper@xxxxxxxxx | Skype: prospertb
>>>>
>>>>
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