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Re: Taking Back Marlin

 

I agree with the unique name proposal.

What about a journal entry explaining our reasons to take back Marlin and rebranding it? We could ask for name suggestions, and then make a poll (1 week, I think). Then, users can decide what they want to call Marlin for.

We could put a "Pantheon Files" option on the poll and see if people like it better, or prefer unique branding.

Best regards,

Andre Luis dos Santos

Em 08-05-2012 03:05, Kumar Aatish escreveu:

Going by the 'standard' having a unique name for file browser makes sense. It will feel inconsistent otherwise. Also for people who install more than one file browser, similar names would be frustrating.
i propose 'Magellan' if people are convinced not to use Marlin.

On May 8, 2012 11:09 AM, "satchitb@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:satchitb@xxxxxxxxx>" <satchitb@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:satchitb@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    I agree with Christian. I know Canonical will be considering
    Marlin for 12.10, and I think it will be good if the name is
    distinctive. 'Files' or 'Briefcase' is the opposite of
    distinctive; Files is also being used as a name by Gnome Shell
    (for Nautilus), and remember briefcases from Windows 9x? It's fine
    if you use 'Files' for the application as you use 'Terminal' for
    Pantheon Terminal, but the name itself should be unique.

    On 8 May 2012 03:24, Cassidy James <c@xxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:c@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        I think "Files" is a fine name; it's not made to be a
        particularly cross-platform app, and any time in doubt you
        could call it by it's more specific name, "Pantheon Files."
        Similar to how "Terminal" is really "Pantheon Terminal." But
        in this case I think naming it what the user would expect is
        more advantageous than the potential branding opportunity.

        In fact, it could even be a bigger "branding" opportunity;
        imagine if Ubuntu moved from Nautilus to Pantheon Files! It'd
        be the best of both worlds because developers would hear about
        Pantheon while users would get a more sensible name.

        Regards,
        Cassidy James

        On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Daniel Foré
        <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

            He's been non-responsive about our attempts to use the LP
            project. My guess is that he'd be genuinely opposed to us
            continuing with the name.

            I do think that Marlin is kind of a silly name that won't
            make sense to anyone who isn't a big geek about Linux File
            Managers :p

            Not terribly concerned with promoting outside of
            elementary though, tbh. You know me :p


            On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Christian Dywan
            <christian@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:christian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
            wrote:

                Is it no option to stick to Marlin, and actually
                continue it in honor of
                its original author? am may have lost interest, but
                it's still a great
                project he put in place there. Unless he is in fact
                opposed to that.

                I think "Files" is a bad name. It may make sense to
                display in the UI,
                but it's a mess when you want to actually discuss
                Mail, Files, Session
                and Launcher - you get the idea. Not to mention it's
                impossible to
                promote outside of Elementary.

                On 07.05.2012 12:28, Allen Lowe wrote:
                > I honestly think "File Cabinet" might be a good name.
                >
                > Allen Lowe
                >
                > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Andre Luis dos Santos
                > <dominiosantos@xxxxxxxxx
                <mailto:dominiosantos@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
                >> I agree with the taking back the code, but I think
                that rebranding it to
                >> something as generic as "Files" will de-brand the
                project completaly.
                >> Personally I think generic names (like "dock",
                "files", "music") are mad for
                >> applications. The most important parts of Pantheon
                have a unique brand:
                >> wingpanel, plank, switchboard, noise (UGH!),
                slingshot, etc.... The only app
                >> that does not have a so unique brand is Pantheon
                Terminal. Why debrand
                >> Marlin like that? Why don't we proprose and vote on
                a unique name? Why don't
                >> we just rename it to Tunafish? (ok, I'm joking here!)
                >>
                >> Just my opinion.
                >>
                >> Best regards,
                >>
                >> Andre Santos
                >>
                >> On 06-05-2012 21:30, Daniel Foré wrote:
                >>
                >> Hey guys,
                >>
                >> as I'm sure you're well aware, am monkey has
                decided to stop working on
                >> Marlin. As you may also be aware, I asked him if we
                could have the LP
                >> project back. He never responded. So we decided
                that we're not waiting
                >> anymore, we're just gonna take it back finally.
                >>
                >> https://code.launchpad.net/pantheon-files
                >>
                >> So boom there we go. We took it back.
                >>
                >> Best Regards,
                >>
                >> Daniel Foré
                >>
                >> elementaryos.org <http://elementaryos.org>
                >>
                >>
                >>
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