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[Andrea Basso <voluntatefaber@xxxxxxxxx>]

I personally think pantheon-files is a terrible name.
Marlin is already widely used by many users in several distros other than
elementary and they'll use our version since Marlin is discontinued, now.
Keeping using Marlin sounds good, even though could be a bit unfair if
ammonkey doesn't want us to do that. I see no point in calling it
pantheon-files, I don't like the idea of marking it as ours. It's against
open-source philosophy, doesn't help convincing other distros to use it and
I personally would never install an app which is marked by someone else.
You know, it makes it sound us like a bit of douchebags.  Plus, its
function is already clear because we decided to change the icon to
something clearer, like a folder (don't know if pantheon-files already has
that).

Andre Luis, I'm not sure about that, we need to release a beta shortly and
this would really slow us down.

Regards,
Andrea Basso

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Kumar Aatish <kumar.aatish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Going by the 'standard' having a unique name for file browser makes sense.
> It will feel inconsistent otherwise. Also for people who install more than
> one file browser, similar names would be frustrating.
> i propose 'Magellan' if people are convinced not to use Marlin.
> On May 8, 2012 11:09 AM, "satchitb@xxxxxxxxx" <satchitb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Christian. I know Canonical will be considering Marlin for
>> 12.10, and I think it will be good if the name is distinctive. 'Files' or
>> 'Briefcase' is the opposite of distinctive; Files is also being used as a
>> name by Gnome Shell (for Nautilus), and remember briefcases from Windows
>> 9x? It's fine if you use 'Files' for the application as you use 'Terminal'
>> for Pantheon Terminal, but the name itself should be unique.
>>
>> On 8 May 2012 03:24, Cassidy James <c@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I think "Files" is a fine name; it's not made to be a particularly
>>> cross-platform app, and any time in doubt you could call it by it's more
>>> specific name, "Pantheon Files." Similar to how "Terminal" is really
>>> "Pantheon Terminal." But in this case I think naming it what the user would
>>> expect is more advantageous than the potential branding opportunity.
>>>
>>> In fact, it could even be a bigger "branding" opportunity; imagine if
>>> Ubuntu moved from Nautilus to Pantheon Files! It'd be the best of both
>>> worlds because developers would hear about Pantheon while users would get a
>>> more sensible name.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Cassidy James
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> He's been non-responsive about our attempts to use the LP project. My
>>>> guess is that he'd be genuinely opposed to us continuing with the name.
>>>>
>>>> I do think that Marlin is kind of a silly name that won't make sense to
>>>> anyone who isn't a big geek about Linux File Managers :p
>>>>
>>>> Not terribly concerned with promoting outside of elementary though,
>>>> tbh. You know me :p
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Christian Dywan <
>>>> christian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it no option to stick to Marlin, and actually continue it in honor
>>>>> of
>>>>> its original author? am may have lost interest, but it's still a great
>>>>> project he put in place there. Unless he is in fact opposed to that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think "Files" is a bad name. It may make sense to display in the UI,
>>>>> but it's a mess when you want to actually discuss Mail, Files, Session
>>>>> and Launcher - you get the idea. Not to mention it's impossible to
>>>>> promote outside of Elementary.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07.05.2012 12:28, Allen Lowe wrote:
>>>>> > I honestly think "File Cabinet" might be a good name.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Allen Lowe
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Andre Luis dos Santos
>>>>> > <dominiosantos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> I agree with the taking back the code, but I think that rebranding
>>>>> it to
>>>>> >> something as generic as "Files" will de-brand the project
>>>>> completaly.
>>>>> >> Personally I think generic names (like "dock", "files", "music")
>>>>> are mad for
>>>>> >> applications. The most important parts of Pantheon have a unique
>>>>> brand:
>>>>> >> wingpanel, plank, switchboard, noise (UGH!), slingshot, etc.... The
>>>>> only app
>>>>> >> that does not have a so unique brand is Pantheon Terminal. Why
>>>>> debrand
>>>>> >> Marlin like that? Why don't we proprose and vote on a unique name?
>>>>> Why don't
>>>>> >> we just rename it to Tunafish? (ok, I'm joking here!)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Just my opinion.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Andre Santos
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 06-05-2012 21:30, Daniel Foré wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hey guys,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> as I'm sure you're well aware, am monkey has decided to stop
>>>>> working on
>>>>> >> Marlin. As you may also be aware, I asked him if we could have the
>>>>> LP
>>>>> >> project back. He never responded. So we decided that we're not
>>>>> waiting
>>>>> >> anymore, we're just gonna take it back finally.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> https://code.launchpad.net/pantheon-files
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So boom there we go. We took it back.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best Regards,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Daniel Foré
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> elementaryos.org
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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