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[Paul van Tilburg <paul@xxxxxxxx>]

Hi!

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 09:32:44PM +0100, Peter wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Olivier Tilloy <olivier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > When this was implemented, the idea was to mimic the behaviour of the
> > gnome-volume-control applet. It is the opposite of what you write
> > though: one may want to decrease the volume quickly and then fine-tune
> > it by increasing it in small steps.
> 
> This surprised me when I first found it, until I realised it was done
> on purpose and I could see the point. It probably confuses some
> folks but I don't recall seeing it discussed much on the forum.

LOL, so for me and my friends/family the situation is reversed. My brains
just cannot get used to it because sometimes you also want to decrease
slightly but it won't.  There are actually more cases where I want to
have decrease it slightly than when I want to decrease it fast.  I have
changed them to 0.10/0.10 for my setup now.

> >> Yes, it's definately a step forward, one minute is a lot to have as
> >> most fine-grained.  However, IMO it's hard to get an agreement here,
> >> it's all about expectation here and this is often not shared.  Maybe
> >> 20/20 is fine and we need to propagate this to a setting?
> >
> > Both pairs of values are fine by me, let's see what others reckon. And
> > Peter seems to be willing to write a more complete patch to make this a
> > configurable setting, which would be great!
> 
> I've now tried the 10s/30s version and I didn't like it. It is fine for just
> going back or just going forward, but for jumping about in a video or
> music track I found it far more intuitive to have the left/right buttons
> move by the same amount. 

I only just go back and forward.   What is an example use case of
jumping back and forward through a video?  I am genuinely curious.

> I found it very disconcerting that pressing
> left N times then right N times did not return to my starting point.

But for volume you say:  until I realises it was done on purpose and
I could see the point.  

By the way, I am not critising you in anyway; I am interested in
understanding the different usages.  The ones I share here are a
combination of experiences of myself and my housemate, who obviously use
it regularly and have known Elisa/Moovida for a long time, friends that
visit regularly, but also of friends/family that often use it for the
first time.

> I would vote for making this 20s/20s right now, with the plan to make
> it configurable later (perhaps making the volume settings configurable
> too at the same time?).

Definately! 

Paul

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