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[Redders <redders@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Joanquín,

I don't think Eric is saying that users should blame Ubuntu, but the fact
is, that from a users point of view, Windows 'Just Works', but Ubuntu fails.
They're not going to grasp the idea that it's Nvidia's and Microsoft's
fault, and even if they do, it being their fault doesn't help! They've still
got a computer that doesn't work with Ubuntu.

Redders

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Joaquín Ignacio Aramendía <
samsagax@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Same her. I got a Dell Vostro 3500 in December 2010 and comes with this
> Optimus tech that i can't bypass. I'm having a hot heavy expensive brick
> that only works in W$7 (and only in W$7). but i disagree with you Erik.
> You should not turn user away from Ubuntu, you should turn users away
> from Optimus tech. If nVidia is not supporting it's own hardware
> configurations in other thing than Micro$oft, screw them and MS, not
> Ubuntu.
>
> El mié, 02-03-2011 a las 11:05 -0800, Erik Pettersen escribió:
> > Thanks Peter,
> >
> > While I have your ear, can you nudge whoever manages the list
> > maintained at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Dell    to
> > remove (or add a disclaimer) for Vostro 3400 (and probably other
> > Vostro 3xxx models) from the official certified list?
> >
> > I purchased the 3400 thinking I'd have a near seamless experience
> > because it was certified to work with ubuntu 10.10.  I recognize that
> > between the initial certification and when I bought the laptop Dell
> > changed to this new hybrid / optimus approach without changing model
> > numbers, and that is of course out of canonicals/ubuntu's control...
> > BUT if we could at least update the certified list or include more
> > data (date certified/specs/etc) it might save some people from a bad
> > experience like mine that turns them off from ubuntu.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Peter Goodall
> > <peter.goodall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Erik Pettersen
> >         <pettersen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         > Thanks Charles,
> >         >
> >         > This *almost* worked.  I blacklisted the nvidia driver, and
> >         did the acpi
> >         > shut off thing...  The only way I can boot to desktop is to
> >         launch recovery
> >         > and select the limited graphics X option.  Then it "works"
> >         fine... but it's
> >         > less than optimal video performance.  I'm not looking to
> >         game or even turn
> >         > on any fancy desktop effects, just want my productivity apps
> >         to render
> >         > correctly and do monitor spanning.
> >         >
> >         > Is there any hope/benefit in the upcoming sandy bridge
> >         support in natty
> >         > narwhal alpha builds?  Alpha 3 is going to be released in a
> >         few days.
> >         >
> >
> >
> >         Sandy Bridge is already supported in Natty as of Alpha 2.
> >          Though
> >         there are some issues with graphics, I believe it is only
> >         under
> >         certain circumstances that most users won't experience.  See
> >
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22237/when-will-we-get-sandy-bridge-support
> .
> >
> >         I would wait for Alpha 3 if I were you just to ensure you get
> >         all the
> >         fixes since Alpha 2.  I've been using 11.04 since before Alpha
> >         1 and
> >         it keeps getting better.
> >
> >         - Pete
> >
> >         >
> >         > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:21 AM, charles
> >         <aquasync@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         >>
> >         >> You could try blacklisting the nvidia modules:
> >         >>
> >         >> $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia.conf
> >         >> blacklist nouveau
> >         >> blacklist nvidia
> >         >>
> >         >> Then I think you need to update the initramfs:
> >         >>
> >         >> $ update-initramfs -u
> >         >>
> >         >> HTH,
> >         >>
> >         >> Charles
> >         >>
> >         >
> >
> >
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