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[Erik Pettersen <pettersen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Redders is correct about my intent.

To clarify:  I was saying the effect of listing a piece of hardware as
"certified" that is clearly no longer certifiable due to Dell product
changes, causes a bad experience that reflects bad on ubuntu, even if it
isn't their fault/fair.

I'm just trying to prevent other people from buying the "wrong" laptop with
the expectation it's been pre-vetted for use with Ubuntu 10.x when it's not.

I'm hopeful the efforts of this group and kernel/X/vid driver hackers in
general can get a stable and decent performing solution to this whole
optimus dual video card hybrid architecture.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Redders <redders@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Joanquín,
>
> I don't think Eric is saying that users should blame Ubuntu, but the fact
> is, that from a users point of view, Windows 'Just Works', but Ubuntu fails.
> They're not going to grasp the idea that it's Nvidia's and Microsoft's
> fault, and even if they do, it being their fault doesn't help! They've still
> got a computer that doesn't work with Ubuntu.
>
> Redders
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Joaquín Ignacio Aramendía <
> samsagax@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Same her. I got a Dell Vostro 3500 in December 2010 and comes with this
>> Optimus tech that i can't bypass. I'm having a hot heavy expensive brick
>> that only works in W$7 (and only in W$7). but i disagree with you Erik.
>> You should not turn user away from Ubuntu, you should turn users away
>> from Optimus tech. If nVidia is not supporting it's own hardware
>> configurations in other thing than Micro$oft, screw them and MS, not
>> Ubuntu.
>>
>> El mié, 02-03-2011 a las 11:05 -0800, Erik Pettersen escribió:
>> > Thanks Peter,
>> >
>> > While I have your ear, can you nudge whoever manages the list
>> > maintained at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Dell    to
>> > remove (or add a disclaimer) for Vostro 3400 (and probably other
>> > Vostro 3xxx models) from the official certified list?
>> >
>> > I purchased the 3400 thinking I'd have a near seamless experience
>> > because it was certified to work with ubuntu 10.10.  I recognize that
>> > between the initial certification and when I bought the laptop Dell
>> > changed to this new hybrid / optimus approach without changing model
>> > numbers, and that is of course out of canonicals/ubuntu's control...
>> > BUT if we could at least update the certified list or include more
>> > data (date certified/specs/etc) it might save some people from a bad
>> > experience like mine that turns them off from ubuntu.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Erik
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Peter Goodall
>> > <peter.goodall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >         On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Erik Pettersen
>> >         <pettersen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >         > Thanks Charles,
>> >         >
>> >         > This *almost* worked.  I blacklisted the nvidia driver, and
>> >         did the acpi
>> >         > shut off thing...  The only way I can boot to desktop is to
>> >         launch recovery
>> >         > and select the limited graphics X option.  Then it "works"
>> >         fine... but it's
>> >         > less than optimal video performance.  I'm not looking to
>> >         game or even turn
>> >         > on any fancy desktop effects, just want my productivity apps
>> >         to render
>> >         > correctly and do monitor spanning.
>> >         >
>> >         > Is there any hope/benefit in the upcoming sandy bridge
>> >         support in natty
>> >         > narwhal alpha builds?  Alpha 3 is going to be released in a
>> >         few days.
>> >         >
>> >
>> >
>> >         Sandy Bridge is already supported in Natty as of Alpha 2.
>> >          Though
>> >         there are some issues with graphics, I believe it is only
>> >         under
>> >         certain circumstances that most users won't experience.  See
>> >
>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22237/when-will-we-get-sandy-bridge-support
>> .
>> >
>> >         I would wait for Alpha 3 if I were you just to ensure you get
>> >         all the
>> >         fixes since Alpha 2.  I've been using 11.04 since before Alpha
>> >         1 and
>> >         it keeps getting better.
>> >
>> >         - Pete
>> >
>> >         >
>> >         > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:21 AM, charles
>> >         <aquasync@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >         >>
>> >         >> You could try blacklisting the nvidia modules:
>> >         >>
>> >         >> $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia.conf
>> >         >> blacklist nouveau
>> >         >> blacklist nvidia
>> >         >>
>> >         >> Then I think you need to update the initramfs:
>> >         >>
>> >         >> $ update-initramfs -u
>> >         >>
>> >         >> HTH,
>> >         >>
>> >         >> Charles
>> >         >>
>> >         >
>> >
>> >
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