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Re: Github plugin.
On 09/26/2013 11:14 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
> On 09/26/2013 10:52 AM, Carl Poirier wrote:
>> Hi Dick,
>>
>> I neither read the whole thread nor played with pretty yet, but if the steps to convert
>> the libraries are fairly straightforward, I can volunteer to do it. I did however create
>> many libraries in the old format so if needed, I will be able to validate the conversion.
>>
>> If you agree, please write down the steps required for the conversion and I will do it.
>
> Please tell me about your kicad environment:
>
> a) are you buiding your own?
>
> b) platform?
>
> c) have you built with python scripting yet?
>
> If c) is yes,
bzr co bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-lib-committers/kicad/library/ legacy
To get all the libraries *as of today*, buy you maybe have already done this.
If so, then it is simply
$ cd legacy
$ bzr up
to get today's libraries.
> then try reading the instructions at the top of
>
> <kicad_src>/scripts/lib_convert.py
>
> Me no python guru.
>
> Step 3) is the actual conversion. The smd_dil would be replaced for each library. In
> this example there, smd_dil.pretty is actually a subdirectory. The *.kicad_mods will go
> into that directory.
>
> This suggests having a master directory above that, say called pretty_footprints somewhere
> to stage this work. In there you would generate a series of *.pretty dirs, one for each
> library.
>
> Then build kicad with FP_LIB_TABLE support. Create table rows in
>
> pcbnew -> Preferences -> Library Tables.
>
> One row for each *.pretty directory. This table can be copied to and from a spreadsheet
> for editing. Select a region, righ mouse click, paste into a spreadsheet. Get it right,
> copy it back. The type should be "Kicad" for pretty libraries. The Nickname can be
> anything, typically the directory name without .pretty extension.
>
> Go into the module viewer, do some sampling, see your pretty footprints. Establish
> confidence or talk of problems.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>>
>> Carl Poirier
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> I checked the size of our largest footprint library and when zipped it scrunches to
>> 70kbytes.
>>
>> This was not pretty, but legacy. But I don't anticipate a noteworthy difference in size.
>>
>> Therefore the concept of getting 70kbytes in one https://github.com hit seems reasonable
>> even with country folks like me with slow internet access. My internet speed is only
>> 160bytes / second. So the download time of this 70kbytes file, after it is zipped and the
>> https session is established, will be less than a second. Maybe 1-3 seconds total with
>> SSL session establishment overhead, depending on github load and internet whims.
>>
>>
>> I am encouraged, and I think I will end up using this plugin as my main means of getting
>> footprints, period.
>>
>>
>> If no one volunteers, I have it on my to do list to convert what we have to pretty, then
>> push it to github. I would use lib_convert.py to do this, for each library.
>>
>> If someone else wants to do it, that would be helpful. I certainly understand the "show
>> me" mentality. If you've yet to see the GITHUB_PLUGIN work, then why would you invest
>> time in this? I understand that. But I've also seen it work, so I am confident that
>> somebody will probably step up in the near future.
>>
>> Just yesterday I made a tweak to the pretty output which tries to put pads on one line if
>> they are not tricked out with optional attributes. That would be the format to use, from
>> a build at least that new I suppose.
>>
>> Also, note that a library repo can be pushed with a README.md file, and in that file you
>> could elaborate on and include an index of all footprints in the library in freeform text.
>> This way a person could web-browse there and read about footprint choices first, in
>> potentially great detail.
>>
>> Note that although subdirectories can be used in the repo, this view is flattened as the
>> plugin unzips the footprints into its cache. So if you use subdirectories, make sure you
>> have unique footprint names. With the upcoming options support, it will be possible to
>> build in directory filters or other tricks into the plugin. But that will be for some
>> other developer to do. I will provide the options support to all plugins.
>>
>> Beyond that, there is also the ability to comment each footprint in the *.kicad_mod file,
>> manually using a text editor for now. The *first* lines of
>>
>> # ... anything
>>
>> are ignored by pcbnew. This may not be as helpful as the table of contents in the
>> README.md file.
>>
>> You can sort of tell that this infrastructure is screaming for leadership. I don't see
>> where that leadership needs to come from a programmer/developer. It is simple
>> administration and guideline establishment.
>>
>> But yes, it is still a little early, we've got to get it running on all the platforms
>> first. Our thanks go to Brian, Miguel and anyone else helping with that.
>>
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>
>>
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