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[Carl Poirier <carl.poirier.2@xxxxxxxxx>]

Couldn't you pull the preconfigured fp-lib-tables from Github instead of a
local directory? This way, it will be easy for the user to get the latest
and greatest footprints!

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Great, thanks!
> On Jan 22, 2015 4:20 PM, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> As of right now, the preloaded fp-lib-table files are installed in
>> ${CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX}/share/kicad/template on Linux and Windows.  On
>> OSX they appear to be installed in
>> ${OSX_BUNDLE_INSTALL_DIR}/${OSX_BUNDLE_SUP_DIR}/template where ever that
>> works out to be.  The fp-lib-table files themselves are part of the
>> kicad-library source so hopefully the install path is the same for them
>> on OSX as well.
>>
>> On 1/22/2015 4:10 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>> > This is going to be slick, Wayne.  Is there any particular place that
>> > seems decent to put the preconfigured fp-table-libs?  In my mind,
>> > they're almost templates...
>> >
>> > Adam Wolf
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     On 1/22/2015 3:56 PM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>> >     > Do you mean <PREFSDIR>/fp-table-lib? (i.e., on
>> >     > Linux ~/.config/kicad/fp-lib-table?)
>> >
>> >     Yes.
>> >
>> >     >
>> >     > I really like this idea.  The wizard already does a good job
>> explaining
>> >     > what each type of fp-lib-table entry is.
>> >
>> >     Then it should be possible to add the code to copy a pre-configured
>> >     fp-lib-table file to the proper path.  The only tricky part would be
>> >     setting up any environment variables.  I have a patch that sets
>> default
>> >     environment variables for KIGITHUB and KISYS3DMOD on start up.  I
>> >     haven't designed the dialog to edit them yet.  It needs tested on
>> OSX so
>> >     I will post it some time tomorrow to get some feed back.  The
>> >     environment variables are saved in the kicad_common config file so
>> you
>> >     could simple add new config entry for something like KISYSMOD from
>> the
>> >     fp-lib-table wizard for footprint libraries stored on the system
>> once I
>> >     commit the code.
>> >
>> >     >
>> >     > Adam Wolf
>> >     >
>> >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <
>> stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >     > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>> wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     >     Maybe you could add an "Initialize Global Table" mode to the
>> >     >     fp-lib-table wizard where a predefined table file is copied
>> to ~/.  You
>> >     >     could test for ~/fp-lib-table and enter this mode
>> automatically or enter
>> >     >     the "Edit Table" mode when ~/fp-lib-table is already
>> defined.  This
>> >     >     would also prevent further cluttering of the library table
>> editor.
>> >     >
>> >     >     On 1/22/2015 10:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>> >     >     > The new fp-lib-table wizard is great for adding new entries
>> to the
>> >     >     > current table, but does not appear to have a "load
>> defaults" type option.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > However, this is based on using it, not reading the code,
>> so it is
>> >     >     > possible the feature is included somewhere I did not see.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > Adam Wolf
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Nick Østergaard <
>> oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >     >     > <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     How does this compare to the new fp lib table wizard?
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     2015-01-22 6:09 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <
>> adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> >     >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >     >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >     <mailto:adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>:
>> >     >     >     > Hi folks!
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > I have a question about adding another feature to the
>> >     >     >     fp-lib-tables manager,
>> >     >     >     > which is already pretty crowded and I want to get
>> buy-in
>> >     >     before even
>> >     >     >     > attempting a patch.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Background:
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Running into another issue with the KiCad Mac
>> experience.
>> >     >     Just to
>> >     >     >     recap, I'm
>> >     >     >     > trying for 2 DMGs.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > One is called "KiCad Extras" and currently includes
>> >     the modules
>> >     >     >     from github,
>> >     >     >     > and the fp-table-lib.for-pretty renamed just
>> >     fp-table-lib.  The
>> >     >     >     idea is that
>> >     >     >     > users can download the extras DMG, and no longer need
>> >     to be
>> >     >     online for
>> >     >     >     > Kicad.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > The modules directory is fine, we provide a "drop
>> target"
>> >     >     (just a
>> >     >     >     symlink)
>> >     >     >     > of /Library/Application Support/kicad/.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > However, the fp-table-lib is tricky.  The per-user
>> >     "global"
>> >     >     (across
>> >     >     >     > projects" fp-table-lib is located in
>> >     >     ~/Library/Preferences/kicad/
>> >     >     >     We cannot
>> >     >     >     > make a "drop target" in a DMG that points to ~/.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Making a "package" works around this, but users don't
>> like
>> >     >     >     packages unless
>> >     >     >     > they're part of App Store (because they usually don't
>> >     >     realize they're
>> >     >     >     > packages :)).  I don't want to do that.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Question:  Would a way to "load default fp-lib-tables"
>> >     be useful
>> >     >     >     to other
>> >     >     >     > people in the library table manager?  This would take
>> >     a look
>> >     >     at what
>> >     >     >     > fp-lib-tables.* are available in a location, and give
>> >     users the
>> >     >     >     ability to
>> >     >     >     > replace their fp-lib-tables with known defaults--i.e.
>> >     I want to
>> >     >     >     use github,
>> >     >     >     > I want to use eagle, I want to use on-disk pretties
>> >     >     downloaded from
>> >     >     >     > github...
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > The more I think about this, I think that it might not
>> >     only help
>> >     >     >     the Mac
>> >     >     >     > install experience, but actually help the new user
>> >     >     experience on all
>> >     >     >     > platforms.
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Thoughts?  (and greetings from Montreal, where I am on
>> >     business
>> >     >     >     and also
>> >     >     >     > working on Kicad Mac nightlies while stuffed with
>> curry
>> >     >     poutine...)
>> >     >     >     >
>> >     >     >     > Adam Wolf
>> >     >     >     > Cofounder and Engineer
>> >     >     >     > W&L
>> >     >     >     >
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