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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 10/15/2015 6:38 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> 
> Den 15/10/2015 12.36 skrev "Bernhard Stegmaier" <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> do we really need to mention those:
>>
>>> Common System Requirements (software specs):
>>>
>>>       - wxwidgets 3.0.2
>>>
>>>       - wxpython 3.0.1
>>>
>>>       - See: http://kicad-pcb.org/help/known-system-related-issues/ for
>>>         software specific issues.
>>
>>
>> I bet that some OS X users will read that and start digging for
> wxWdigets and wxPython.
>> If you are not compiling yourself, everything needed will be conatined
> in the application bundle.
>> So, there is no need for a normal user to even know about
> wxWidgets/wxPython.
>>
>> For Linux, IMHO the paket manager will take care of installing all SW
> prerequisites.
>> For Windows I guess it is the same as for OS X, everything will be in
> the installer?
> 
> Yes. I think those deoends at not interesting here, they belong to the
> build instructions.

I agree.  Library dependencies are only useful for developers and this
is already documented in the compiling KiCad section in the developers
docs.  This will just confuse users who should be using an installer.

>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bernhard
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-10-15 10:36, Marco Ciampa wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 04:06:51PM -0400, Mark Roszko wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I really think Pentium compatible is horrible terminology ever since
>>>> Intel absolutely destroyed the name and now theres old generation I3s
>>>> rebranded as Pentiums.
>>>>
>>>> Also a Pentium 3 probably can't be used with any of the required
> video cards.
>>>
>>>
>>> raised to Pentium IV, ok?
>>>
>>>> I personally would remove Windows XP. It is a dead and unsupported OS.
>>>> We should not encourage people keeping their botnet computer and
>>>> supporting issues they may have.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can understand this but, as Lorenzo reported, there are many XPs still
>>> in use and, given you use it behind a firewall and do not use it to
>>> navigate on Internet, how can it possibly harm anyone?
>>>
>>>> Regarding Radeon cards, there are issues:
>>>>
> http://kicad-pcb.org/help/known-system-related-issues/#_bad_graphics_cards
>>>
>>>
>>> ok will add a link for those issues...
>>>
>>>> "pre-HD" is also flawed for Intel cards as in the case of the broken
>>>> 4500 GMA theres a "M" and "HD" version released simultaneously. Needs
>>>> to be reworded to mean no cards that came before the HD-Graphics
>>>> series rather than Intel's previous HD suffixing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok reworded, check if you think it is better now...
>>>
>>>> I would keep python off because its no longer an system thing and just
>>>> general userland stuff. Also its "recommended" not "required" to run
>>>> kicad.
>>>
>>>
>>> ok deleted
>>>
>>> lets try it again:
>>>
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> Common System Requirements (hardware specs):
>>>
>>>     - Pentium-compatible PC (Pentium IV, Athlon or more-recent system
>>> recommended);
>>>
>>>     - 512 MB RAM (1024 MB RAM recommended);
>>>
>>>     - Up to 500 MB available hard disk space;
>>>
>>>     - 1280x1024 resolution (higher resolution recommended), with at
>>> least 16K colors.
>>>
>>>     - Graphic card with at least OpenGL 2.0, with hardware shaders. Check
>>>       the opengl specs of the card:
>>>
>>>       - Intel: No cards that came before the HD-Graphics, regardless
>>> of the wording HD.
>>>         Intel cards that are reported working starts from model HD2000
>>> and higher.
>>>
>>>       - NVidia: from NVIDIA support page:
>>> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nv_ogl2_support.html
>>>         NVIDIA support for OpenGL 2.0 begins with the Release 75
>>> series of drivers.
>>>         GeForce FX (NV3x), GeForce 6 Series (NV4x), NV3xGL-based
>>> Quadro FX and NV4xGL-based
>>>         Quadro FX GPUs, and all future NVIDIA GPUs support OpenGL 2.0.
>>>
>>>       - Ati: should work any modern Radeon chip even in the APU (GPU
>>> in the main processor).
>>>         but check for some issues here:
>>>
>>>
> http://kicad-pcb.org/help/known-system-related-issues/#_bad_graphics_cards
>>>
>>> Common System Requirements (software specs):
>>>
>>>       - wxwidgets 3.0.2
>>>
>>>       - wxpython 3.0.1
>>>
>>>       - See: http://kicad-pcb.org/help/known-system-related-issues/ for
>>>         software specific issues.
>>>
>>> Specific System Requirements
>>>
>>>     Windows
>>>     Apple Mac OSX
>>>     GNU/Linux
>>>     Other OSes
>>>
>>> Windows
>>>
>>> The software and hardware prerequisites for installing KiCad on a Windows
>>> system are as follows:
>>>
>>>     Microsoft Windows XP SP3, Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7,
>>>     Windows 8, Windows Server 2012, or Windows 10;
>>>
>>> Apple - Mac OS X
>>>
>>> The software and hardware prerequisites for installing on a Apple Mac OS
>>> X computer are as follows:
>>>
>>>     Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) or higher;
>>>
>>> GNU/Linux
>>>
>>> The software and hardware prerequisites for installing on Linux are as
>>> follows:
>>>
>>>     Any modern Linux distro with OpenGl 2.0 or higher elabled
>>>     graphics should go. For example Linux Ubuntu 12.04 or higher.
>>>
>>> Android/Linux
>>>
>>> The Android/Linux platform is actually NOT supported.
>>>
>>> Other OSes
>>>
>>> Other systems (notably Unix *BSD) may be fully working but are actually
>>> not ufficially supported.
>>>
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> If you agree we can add this page on the site...
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Marco Ciampa
>>>
>>> I know a joke about UDP, but you might not get it.
>>>
>>> +------------------------+
>>> | GNU/Linux User  #78271 |
>>> | FSFE fellow       #364 |
>>> +------------------------+
>>>
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