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Re: Fwd: Language List
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From:
jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:46:17 +0100
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Le 25/02/2016 14:34, Simon Wells a écrit :
> can we not just use the localized version of the language name?
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> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:29 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 2/25/2016 1:47 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>> And BTW, we have all accepted that flags for languages are bad.
Who is "all" ?
I don't remember I said "flags for languages are bad"
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>> What's the alternative, English text? Is English text alone useful for
>> users who don't know any English? I guess it's not an issue when there
>> are translations for the user's default language. I realize the flags
>> aren't ideal but is there a better solution?
>>
>>>
>>> 2016-02-25 7:44 GMT+01:00 Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> I think it might be a good idea to make the menu only list the
>>>> languages found. But I don't think the languages menu should be
>>>> removed. I think it should either just show the "Default" entry, or
>>>> say in the menu that now language files was found.
>>>>
>>>> I am not really sure why it is considered testing, but I suspect that
>>>> Jean-Pierre or somone else knows something more about that, but I
>>>> could be wrong.
>>>>
>>>> If no one knows why this is considered testing, I would suggest that
>>>> we don't do that, because it is really usefull, and a user using non
>>>> english native language on his desktop expect that it should be
>>>> possible to change it to english. This is also very useful for bug
>>>> reporting. Maybe we should even note that in our little bug reporting
>>>> guide.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>> 2016-02-25 5:24 GMT+01:00 Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>> any comments on this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM
>>>>> Subject: Language List
>>>>> To: KiCad Developers <kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently the Language List throughout kicad advises it is used for testing only
>>>>>
>>>>> common/pgm_base.cpp:72 * The selection of languages is mainly for
>>>>> maintainer's convenience
>>>>> the tooltip for the languages option in preferences is also "only used
>>>>> for testing!"
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is the case do we really need the flags, Apart from being
>>>>> rather over the top for a testing feature flags while they can look
>>>>> pretty (yet seem to be disabled on most platforms) aren't very
>>>>> accurate as to the language, and should it be moved into #ifdef DEBUG
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently making it so that it will only add the languages that
>>>>> are found in the paths as being able to select a language that isn't
>>>>> installed is not very useful. And the languages menu will not even be
>>>>> available if no i18n files are located
>>>>>
>>>>> If we decide to keep the flags would it not make more sense to move
>>>>> these to the i18n repo so that adding a language would not require
>>>>> effort from both programmers and translators, how my code will work is
>>>>> that it will automatically update the list with any languages that are
>>>>> detected
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon
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Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
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