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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 4/3/2017 3:27 AM, John Beard wrote:
> I would beg to differ (e.g. how can anyone build a package when the
> milestone doesn't have a VCS branch/tag and isn't released), but I
> realise I don't understand at all how Kicad releases are planned and
> executed.

The way I understand milestones is that they are supposed to track bugs
and blueprints to a specific code branch but this only works if you
Bazaar.  Honestly, I don't think it's very well implemented which is why
I've avoided using it.

> 
> What /is/ the right way to track issues targeted for future
> milestones, if not milestones in the issue tracker? Awful as Launchpad
> is, I find it useful to be able to see what remains to be done.

I've been using the milestones strictly as a release tool with source
archives.  Using them for pretty much anything else is worthless unless
you use bazaar as your vcs.  Maybe some day, Canonical will integrate
git as well but I'm not holding my breath on that.  Until that happens,
I would rather not spend the time trying to make it work.

> 
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:05 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> It doesn't make any sense without a 5.0 source branch which isn't going
>> to happen until the items that I listed are ready.  Once that happens,
>> then I will create a 5.0 branch.  The problem is that you've assign a 5
>> series without the associated code branch.  If you leave it, I promise
>> you someone will build a 5.0-rc1 package which is completely false.
>> Then users will assume that we are near to a v5 release which we are
>> not.  None of this should have happened without at least some discussion.
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 2:09 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
>>> I think having a milestone for use in the bug tracker is valuable, I
>>> would urge you not to have that deleted. The v5 series can go ofc.
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017 11:31 AM, "Wayne Stambaugh" <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Only kicad-committers should be able to do this.  When I get a chance I
>>>     check the launchpad permissions.  Please remove it when you get a
>>>     chance.  I do not want users thinking this is an official rc1 candidate.
>>>      It is not.  The symbol library table, stitching via, and revised
>>>     connection algorithm are all part of v5 rc1.
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>
>>>     Wayne
>>>
>>>     On 3/31/2017 5:27 PM, John Beard wrote:
>>>     > Hi,
>>>     >
>>>     > I "accidentally" made a Launchpad series for v5:
>>>     >
>>>     > https://launchpad.net/kicad/5.0 <https://launchpad.net/kicad/5.0>
>>>     >
>>>     > I wasn't really expecting to have permissions to do that, but it went
>>>     > though, so here it is! I doubled down on it and so there's also a
>>>     > milestone for RC1. Project management people are of course welcome to
>>>     > assign themselves as managers as needed.
>>>     >
>>>     > I think we can use these to target important bugs/features to v5, so
>>>     > we can get visibiliy of what remains to do and people looking to pick
>>>     > off bugs can have a list of things to hit first.
>>>     >
>>>     > Cheers,
>>>     >
>>>     > John
>>>     >
>>>     > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Chris Pavlina
>>>     <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>     >> Sounds good.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> I've collected all the things I want to work on for 5.0 properly on
>>>     >> Launchpad now, assigned to myself. These are:
>>>     >>
>>>     >> - Fix remaining UI/UX issues with the component selector.
>>>     >> - Investigate possible footprint preview panel locale issues
>>>     >> - Implement footprint selection tags on history items
>>>     >> - Document the new component selector.
>>>     >> - Fix OpenGL compatibility test crash on startup [1]
>>>     >> - Implement clean OpenGL/Cairo fallback [2]
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Plus a few more minor things (all assigned to me on Launchpad).
>>>     >>
>>>     >> I'd like to get all these done before 5.0, is that okay? I'm not sure
>>>     >> how far off the geometry library and via stitching are so I don't
>>>     know
>>>     >> how much time that gives me.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1676915
>>>     <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1676915>
>>>     >> [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1676916
>>>     <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1676916>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:47:19AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>>>     >>> Hey Chris,
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> The following items are holding up the v5 branch:
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Symbol library table (me).
>>>     >>> Unified geometry library (Tom).
>>>     >>> Stitching via support (Tom & Orson).
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> I was hoping I would be done with the symbol library table by
>>>     now but
>>>     >>> I'm really having trouble finding the time to finish it up.  I'm not
>>>     >>> sure where Tom and Orson stand.  I just saw an email from Tom
>>>     the other
>>>     >>> day so it looks like there is still a bit of work to do on his
>>>     end with
>>>     >>> the stitching via support.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Thanks,
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Wayne
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> On 3/28/2017 10:45 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
>>>     >>>> Hey Wayne,
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>> In the interest of prioritizing my own work - just curious if
>>>     you have
>>>     >>>> any idea how long it's going to be before declaring the v5 feature
>>>     >>>> freeze, and what that's waiting on.
>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>
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