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Message #38032
Re: 5.1
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To:
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From:
Thomas Pointhuber <thomas.pointhuber@xxxxxx>
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Date:
Thu, 18 Oct 2018 23:35:27 +0200
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Hi,
I agree that GTK3 should be a first class citizen of supported toolkit
in the future.
I have gtk3 builds running for testing purpose, and at the moment
scrolling is the most annoying issue in my opinion, which makes it
nearly unusable to simply zoom in/out reliable:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1786515
Another things I noticed:
* Loading a board means window is heavily flickering (including
disappearing UI for a short time)
* some gui elements (+/- for discrete number entries) look misscaled or
have overflow issues with other elements.
When python3 is merged, we can try to get wxPhoenix support into 5.1 as
well. For now only with Linux build support, but this is better than
having no scripting console at all.
Short question: what does USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT change? I didn't see
any differences on my gtk3 builds.
Please note I'm running wx3.1 which seems to have fixed some gtk3 issues
other might experiencing.
Regards,
Thomas
Am 18.10.18 um 21:48 schrieb seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> On 2018-10-18 10:10, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> The legacy canvas in the pcb tools and gerbview is slated for removal
>> during v6 development. I image it will happen fairly quickly after 5.1
>> is released. I also expect there to be great wailing and gnashing of
>> teeth once it's removed but keeping it around doesn't make sense. We
>> will just have to suck it up, deal with the backlash, and fix any
>> lingering issues in the new tool framework and router as quickly as
>> possible.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>
> Hi Wayne-
>
> We should probably start moving the default build on some Linuxes over
> to gtk3 as the gtk2/3 conflicts were one of the prime drivers to the
> GAL-legacy switch in eeschema. This requires turning on
> -DUSE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT as well for these linuxes.
>
> Unfortunately, this is an either/or in that Debian9 (and derivatives in
> Ubuntu) doesn't provide a python-wxgtk built against gtk2 and Debian
> 10/Ubuntu 18.04 don't provide python-wxgtk built against gtk3.
>
> If we are keeping the Legacy canvas for 5.1, we'll need to iron out GTK3
> bugs. This is potentially a not insubstantial amount of work as right
> now, GTK3 legacy view in pcbnew and gerbview does not display anything
> and a very garbled display in footprint editor.
>
> How much effort do we want to expend on keeping legacy running in new
> systems? Should we consider disabling legacy canvas if we enable GTK3
> in the build? FWIW, GTK3 works fine for page layout editor and the
> various buttons and menus as far as I have found so far. Also, GAL
> works as I expect
>
> -Seth
>
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Follow ups
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Re: 5.1
From: Seth Hillbrand, 2018-10-18
References
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5.1
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-10-17
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Re: 5.1
From: John Beard, 2018-10-18
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Re: 5.1
From: Wayne Stambaugh, 2018-10-18
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Re: 5.1
From: seth, 2018-10-18