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[Valorie Zimmerman <valorie-zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

What if we transfer ownership of the KCC to the Kubuntu Developers? -v

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Aaron Honeycutt
<honeycuttaaron3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't like giving control over to the UCC even if one of our TOP
> developers is on it. Clay suggested on IRC about having a team managing it,
> I suggest having it like before (the kinda acting leader, in that case Jon
> but in here Philip) then we can just change ownership if someone else takes
> that "chair"
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
> <valorie-zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Daniel Holbach
>> <daniel.holbach@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > On 24.02.2016 11:25, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
>> >> As a historic fact, the Kubuntu Community Council began before there
>> >> was a UCC.
>> >>
>> >> Can you explain what sort of bottleneck you are speaking of? Please
>> >> explain why the historical facts should be swept away so the org chart
>> >> can be all neat and tidy?
>> >
>> > As one example, we quite often had the case where terms of board members
>> > ended before we had replacements. In this case the owner of the team can
>> > quickly go in and extend the term by a few weeks to make additional
>> > time. Ownership in Launchpad not only reflects a structure in an org
>> > chart, but it also comes with access privileges.
>> >
>> > As Jonathan is not involved in the Kubuntu Council anymore, I think we
>> > should move on and update Launchpad.
>> >
>> > Have a great day,
>> >  Daniel
>>
>> Hello folks, I'm having another think. Daniel was friendly, and it is
>> true that Jon has moved on, and probably will not be interested in a
>> KC seat in the future. I'm CC'ing Jon so he can object if he wants.
>>
>> Scarlett is now on the UCC, and she has asked in IRC for us to
>> consider the "bus factor". If one person is the owner, and something
>> happens to them, what happens to the team? To prevent this, having
>> group ownership is the best protection, and the UCC is the logical
>> owner. So I propose a new response, as follows:
>>
>> Hello Daniel and the UCC,
>>
>> Thanks for your response. We were all taken aback by the abruptness of
>> the first request, and given the past history of the perceived
>> disregard of the KCC by the UCC, rather insulted. We all felt we were
>> being instructed to change ownership for no reason.
>>
>> Scarlett and Daniel have both now given us a reason: the bus factor
>> when a group is owned by a person. We see that that is worth
>> evaluating, and we are consulting among ourselves.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Valorie
>>
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