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[Karl Fogel <karl.fogel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Barry Warsaw <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> However, "Debugging" isn't really what I had in mind for the page,
> even though it might seem like that based on the first/only entry on
> the page.  For example, the next thing I intend to write up (once I
> dig up those instructions) is how to run Launchpad with PostgreSQL on
> a ramdisk.  That's a "trick/tip/tidbit" but not a debugging aid.

Right.  I wasn't saying that "Debugging" is the nwe place for everything
that might have gone on the Tips and Tricks page.  I was saying that
"Debugging" is the right place for *this* particular tip, and that other
tips/tricks might go to other places.

> So I really see this page as a collection of many of the little things
> we've discovered that makes Life With Launchpad easier, but which
> aren't essential to hacking on it, and may not even be of interest or
> appropriate for everyone on every platform.
>
> Can we come up with a better name than "Debugging" given that intent?

See above, and my previous mail.  "Debugging" is *not* the new name for
the "Tips and Tricks" page.  What I'm saying is that a "Tips and Tricks"
page is a seductive but ultimately nugatory idea, and that the more
useful (but harder) thing to do is find topic-appropriate places in the
wiki for each individual tip/trick as it comes up.

For example, we already have an EmacsTips page.

(Plus, I got to use the word "nugatory".  It's gonna be a fine day.)

> As an aside, I think that structure is fine for new people, but it's
> not as useful (and perhaps detrimental) to experienced developers.
> It's like the difference between a tutorial and a reference manual.
> When I know what page I'm looking for, I really don't want to be
> distracted by having to work the path backward to remember where to
> start my hunt.

Search function?

> Sure thing!  My call to arms still stands.  We've all got these little
> tricks in our heads, buried in email threads, shell histories, and
> muscle memories.  Let's get them into the wiki!

+1 on getting them into the wiki, one way or another.

-K