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[Jonathan Lange <jml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:52 PM, James Westby <jw+debian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:16:11 +0000, Jonathan Lange <jml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> A derived recipe isn't designed for readability. To understand what it
>> means, you need to be able to look at the parent recipes. The
>> difference between "insert-after" and "insert-nest" causes me to pause
>> and think when I read them. All of these combined make me think that
>> derived recipes can confuse newbies.
>>
>> I think it's pretty much inherent to derivation though.
>
> Agreed. I plan to have a way to see the complete recipe, and you may
> want to implement that in the web ui too.
>
> Do you think that the difference in the insert-* methods are
> warranted? Just having insert-after means you can't do one thing (modify
> a nested branch that is currently unmodified in the parent), so I put it
> there for completeness.
>

I think it's warranted.

>> >> What's the next step?
>> >
>> > I need to know that the proposals here allow for the desired UI to be
>> > implemented, and we need a decision on the two options in the
>> > multi-series proposal.
>> >

Tim's made one already. :)

...
>
> Do we want input from the design team/Mark on the mockups/changes at
> some stage?
>

We need approval from Mark on the derivation stuff, I think.

Aaron & Paul are already beginning work without the UX team's input,
and I think that's the right thing to do.

jml