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[Greg Faith <gregfaith@xxxxxxxxx>]

There is a brand new non-pae mini-iso spun in the archive as of today..
Dang it never got the one just before it tested...

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/

Dated: 20120315

By the way where did that testing and reporting the mini.iso on the
qa-tracker every land? I even read where some of the lubuntu team DID NOT
want testing of the mini.iso added to the tracker???  I would ask why?? ...
Since it may become a viable option for getting the non-pae kernel working.

Oh well, I am going to test it anyway.. I'll just take my laptop and plug
into the wire and do some multi-tasking on my desktop during the process.
hmmm... maybe I will test it on my Lenovo desktop too..

nm_geo Greg



On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Sounds fun!
>
> Yeah, CD sized is always good :)
>
> As it looks like it will be a community respin, I'm prepared to host it.
> It will need some testing :) Do keep us updated with progress. The final
> respin will be after the release of 12.04 as a community edition. We have
> had them before we were adopted, I'd have to check what the situation is
> now that we are adopted in terms of where we can state its existance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 10 March 2012 22:05, Greg Faith <gregfaith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Update on the min.iso precise 12.04 non-pae testings and tweaking..
>> It is still best to use normal install (tasksel) select lubuntu-core
>> You will get a completely bootable version on the partition you installed
>> it to.
>> I still like to get synaptic first and then install lubuntu-desktop (all
>> clean just like it would be from LiveCD)
>>
>> Okay now I have carried it  and  carried it a little farther..  Yeah just
>> a little .. whew
>>
>> I used remastersys and created an iso that could be distributed.  Problem
>> is I added to much junk to it before I decide to try the remastersys.
>> Image is about 803 MB so it is a tad to big.. It did boot up and has an
>> option to install .. That is my next step.. By the way I added the b43
>> firmware to the install for my laptop.  It made it through the remastersys
>> too.  will now remaster a truly stripped down iso and see how small it is.
>>
>> It has been a fun productive morning here.  Trying to install now will
>> let you know..
>>
>> nm_geo Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Greg Faith <gregfaith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Lance I just did another mini.iso install today with the 20120203 date.
>>>
>>> What I have found is that using only the lubuntu-core initially does a
>>> better job.
>>>
>>> I then booted to the installed Lubuntu-core..  used Xterm and sudo
>>> installed synaptic right away.  *Note: " just doing the lubuntu-desktop
>>> right here would be reasonable and synaptic would fall in place with it."
>>> *
>>>
>>> Then I added the lubuntu-desktop.
>>> After that I added the apts that I think I have got to have.....
>>> Firefox(I love Sync), keepassx and nautilus-dropbox
>>>
>>> everything is splendid now...
>>>
>>> I have to admit I like the look of the LXDE desktop.. Wish I had tried
>>> it during the rush to beta1 testing.
>>>
>>> I should nearly be an expert on the mini.iso install by the time I
>>> finish testing.. NOT
>>>
>>> The kernel is the key to those b43 issues without ethernet.  I am doing
>>> some thinkin' on that one.
>>>
>>> NEXT shot will be straight CLI install.. But this install worked pretty
>>> well I think.
>>>
>>> nm_geo Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quite simply tasksel has been very unreliable, particularly so since I
>>>> requested this change:
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/931237
>>>>
>>>> Personally if I had to choose ATM I'd say stick with CLI.
>>>>
>>>> But the worst problem is that most of those effected seem to have
>>>> Pentium M Laptops with no access to a wired connection. Not sure yet how to
>>>> deal with that.
>>>>
>>>> I have found that UNetbootin works fine to create a mini.iso flash
>>>> drive. There has to be a way to slip the most common wireless drivers into
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> But this was a total screw-up on the part of Canonical, and I've told
>>>> SABDFL the same:
>>>>
>>>> https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08539.html
>>>>
>>>> No reply yet, but unless Ubuntu itself changes course we'll just have
>>>> to tell a lot of Pentium users w/o wired access goodbye :^(
>>>>
>>>> Lance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Sun, 3/4/12, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-qa] Non-pae testing
>>>> To: "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc: lubuntu-wiki-docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>>>> lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>, "Steven"
>>>> <stenten@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 12:38 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aloha,
>>>>
>>>> That tasksel might be a bit beginner friendly, however did anyone test
>>>> already if Lubuntu Desktop is even added to that? We've only become
>>>> official this release, that might mean someone could have overlooked it.
>>>> Note that it will take a lot more from our side in terms of
>>>> documentation. Giving a more step by step guidance.
>>>>
>>>> Something to think about.
>>>>
>>>> @Steven: let us know how things will progress.
>>>>
>>>> With metta, Chris
>>>> On Mar 3, 2012 12:09 PM, "Phill Whiteside" <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lance,
>>>>
>>>> Chris is team leader for the wiki / docs team [1], as I'm also a member
>>>> of that team we do still chat to each other :)
>>>>
>>>> I've cc'd them this email.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Phill.
>>>> [1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs
>>>>
>>>> On 2 March 2012 20:24, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm working on things, how much documentation do we need?
>>>>
>>>> I think a very brief how-to regarding upgrades from Oneiric to Precise.
>>>> But we all know that upgrades can be problematic depending on
>>>> customization, hardware, etc.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes down to the the mini.iso we used to provide very limited
>>>> details regarding the minimal install:
>>>>
>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
>>>>
>>>> None of that is wrong but I think we should be able to use "Install"
>>>> and 'tasksel'. Or should we go CLI? Or do we need to provide details for
>>>> both methods?
>>>>
>>>> If we go with 'tasksel' I like this guide:
>>>>
>>>> http://xbmcmediacenter.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-mini-iso/
>>>>
>>>> But I have a few concerns:
>>>>
>>>> (1) Regarding "hostname" I think we need to better explain that it's
>>>> the same as Computer Name using the live CD, ie:
>>>>
>>>> This is the name used to identify the computer on your network, if
>>>> you're used to using the live installer it's simply called "computer name"
>>>> there and it's created for you when you enter your full name and user name,
>>>> eg;
>>>>
>>>> If your full name is "John Smith", and you keep the user name "john"
>>>> your computer name will typically be something like "john-desktop".
>>>>
>>>> (2) HTTP proxy. I've never had to set one up, most users won't. How do
>>>> we explain that?
>>>>
>>>> (3) Partitioning! How much should we say? At least "use largest
>>>> continuous space" still exists in the Debian installer ;^)
>>>>
>>>> (4) Regarding encryption I don't know what to say, I've never done so.
>>>>
>>>> (5) UTC clock settings still exists in the alternate install images but
>>>> not in the netboot installs I've tried. Do we need to mention anything here?
>>>>
>>>> I think PhillW is our main documentation guy so I think it's ultimately
>>>> up to him to decide what the documentation says, sorry Phill :^)
>>>>
>>>> But I also wanted to be able to create a bootable USB flash drive with
>>>> the mini.iso image and while it was possible using grub and "dd" I found it
>>>> unreliable, and we all know "dd" can be hazardous to existing data.
>>>>
>>>> So I kept exploring and it's fairly easy to create a bootable mini.iso
>>>> with UNetbootin. Downright easy to create a Oneiric image, a tiny bit more
>>>> complicated to create Precise image due to the need to understand file
>>>> paths, but much safer than using "dd" from CLI.
>>>>
>>>> So I contacted the UNetbootin dev and asked if they'd provide both
>>>> standard and non-pae images in their available downloads. We'll have to be
>>>> patient for a reply.
>>>>
>>>> What does everyone think so far?
>>>>
>>>> If you wish you can follow the conversation here at the forums:
>>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924455
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if I'm just being a pain in the neck,
>>>>
>>>> Lance
>>>>
>>>> PS: All of my hardware runs the PAE kernel just fine so we will need a
>>>> non-pae tester at some point, but I know how to look and see what kernel
>>>> packages are installed, what's running, etc.
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Thu, 3/1/12, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [Lubuntu-qa] Non-pae testing
>>>> To: lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 1:39 PM
>>>>
>>>>
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