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[Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry for top posting this time but since those attachments failed when I tried to post earlier here are two links to the extra screens shown during Edubuntu installation:

http://edubuntu.org/sites/default/files/docimages/install-precise/030-edubuntu-options-oneiric.png

http://edubuntu.org/sites/default/files/docimages/install-precise/035-edubuntu-options-oneiric.png

As I said we'd only need one additional screen rather than two, just so we could choose between a minimal (core) or full (desktop) install.

Easy to imagine but I'm sure much more complex to implement.

Lance

--- On Mon, 6/3/13, Erick Brunzell <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Erick Brunzell <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Suggestion] Having another version for Lubuntu (Mini Lubuntu)
> To: "Jonathan Marsden" <jmarsden@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lubuntu-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Julien Lavergne" <gilir@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Monday, June 3, 2013, 12:09 AM
> On 06/02/2013 10:59 PM, Jonathan
> Marsden wrote:
> > On 06/02/2013 11:27 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> >
> >> this is mentioned on our Minimal Install page. 
> >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
> >> where > have 'desktop install' (the normal one),
> and 'core install' (very
> >> stripped down).
> > I think (if I am understanding Ali correctly) that the
> proposal is for
> > creating an official additional ISO image that would
> only have on it a
> > "core" Lubuntu.  So you could then use an
> Alternate Installer approach
> > to install a "really light" Lubuntu without needing to
> first install a
> > cli-only system and then add GUI packages "by hand".
> >
> > Such an ISO is not mentioned on the wiki, because it
> does not yet exist.
> >
> > This would mean another seed file, and another ISO to
> test... seems like
> > significant work, unless there are reasonably large
> numbers of users
> > that would would benefit.
> >
> > Ali: What is the use case for this proposed ISO? 
> What range of machine
> > hardware specs do you expect it would install on and be
> useful on, that
> > the current Lubuntu ISOs cannot install onto?  Who
> is the "target
> > audience" for this ISO image?  How many such
> people are there out there
> > who would use it, if it existed?
> >
> > My instinct is that this might be more appropriately
> done as an
> > unofficial one-man-project initially (in other words,
> "just do it!").
> > Then, if it turns out to be popular, you would have
> some evidence to
> > suggest it is worth making it official after that.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> I sent a reply earlier but I think my attachments bollixed
> the whole
> deal so I'm resending this w/o the attachments;
> 
> Phil has already reflected a bit on this, and I largely
> share his
> sentiments. I added Julien to the conversation in case he
> cares to add
> any feedback ...... I hope he doesn't shoot me.
> 
> Purely from an iso/upgrade testers perspective I'd hate to
> see us add
> anymore images because the workload is quite daunting
> already. I rather
> imagine it's a nightmare on the dev/maintenance end also.
> 
> I plan to shift a greater amount of my focus to upgrade
> testing both via
> 'release-upgrader' and via 'live-iso'. Upgrade tests can be
> quite time
> consuming (particularly if bugs are encountered making
> retesting
> necessary) because they require the installation, updating,
> and
> modifying of the prior release.
> 
> Due to the daunting workload I've even hoped that wireless
> support in
> the netboot images will soon improve to the point we can
> drop the
> alternate images altogether, but I'm unsure where we're at
> in that
> regard and I have no wireless with which to test.
> 
> But, back to the 'lubuntu-core' vs 'lubuntu-desktop' issue,
> I'd prefer
> that we take an approach similar to that of Edubuntu where
> they offer
> additional installation options on the live images. After
> the "preparing
> to install" screen they have two additional screens pop up.
> 
> In our case I'd think we'd only need one additional screen
> where a
> person could choose either a "core" install or a "full"
> install. But
> given the limited number of developers dedicated to Lubuntu
> I suspect
> we'd need a volunteer from the installer team to devote a
> great number
> of hours (probably weeks) of dev work.
> 
> Lance
> 
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