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["Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Jonathan Marsden <jmarsden@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> On 06/02/2013 11:27 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> > this is mentioned on our Minimal Install page.
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
> > where > have 'desktop install' (the normal one), and 'core install'
(very
> > stripped down).
>
> I think (if I am understanding Ali correctly) that the proposal is for
> creating an official additional ISO image that would only have on it a
> "core" Lubuntu.  So you could then use an Alternate Installer approach
> to install a "really light" Lubuntu without needing to first install a
> cli-only system and then add GUI packages "by hand".

Hi Jonathan,

Thank you so much for taking the time to read my email and reply, you made
my day :)

What I'm suggesting is simply having an out-of-the-box working 'minimum'
Lubuntu System with the least basic packages only (Browser +
PCManFM+lightdm+other needed packages) so that the type of users who are
looking for such option don't really have to do anything but to download
and install :)

So, I guess you are right but I thought it is better to explain further :)


> Such an ISO is not mentioned on the wiki, because it does not yet exist.

Yes, that is why I'm suggesting to have one if possible, of course.


> This would mean another seed file, and another ISO to test... seems like
> significant work, unless there are reasonably large numbers of users
> that would would benefit.
Yes, it means extra work but IMHO, that could be useful and no, I have no
data as of now. We can obtain such if needed and I can do it.


> Ali: What is the use case for this proposed ISO?  What range of machine
> hardware specs do you expect it would install on and be useful on, that
> the current Lubuntu ISOs cannot install onto?  Who is the "target
> audience" for this ISO image?  How many such people are there out there
> who would use it, if it existed?

The use case, IMHO, would be:

1- Offer an option for people who just need a working system and they can
build it by adding the packages they want but it is not really like
installing Ubuntu mini ISO, it is a bit different as the basic Lubuntu
Packages or Lubuntu Core [1] will be installed by default.

2- Last time I have checked (was a year or so, can't remember), the RAM
Usage was LESS. This will be very helpful for really old machine and I'm
not asking for a version that can be installed and expect to work on P2
with 64MB just like my machine [2], I'm talking about say P3 with 256MB RAM
or less. P2 with 64MB? you CAN *install* but you can NOT use. I have tested
that and the system is not usable.

These are the main two use case in my mind as of now.
As for how many, as I mentioned, I can check this out.


> My instinct is that this might be more appropriately done as an
> unofficial one-man-project initially (in other words, "just do it!").
> Then, if it turns out to be popular, you would have some evidence to
> suggest it is worth making it official after that.
>
> Jonathan
>

If you mean by "just do it" is to 'test' it, then I don't mind, this is
what I'm doing right now while typing this :)
If you mean by "just do it" is to 'create that ISO', then I'm not the right
one for this, that is on the first place why I'm sending these emails :D

By the way, I have two Qs here:

A- Is this package: http://i42.tinypic.com/3588nx3.jpg
equal to this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/lubuntu-core ???

B- Why I fail to find a browser on this:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/lubuntu-core

Thank you!

P.S.
I'll get back with some more notes after the installation will finish. It
is taking so long.


[1] - http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/lubuntu-core
[2] -
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614&page=16&p=11832431#post11832431

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Best Regards,
amjjawad
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