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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

if any packages do not receive updates (i.e. Support), it is mis-leading to
call it Long Term Support.

10.04 is there PRECISELY because of the dropping of Chip-Sets after it. It
does not receive updates to desktop applications, I'm not 100% on kernels,
as they are part of server - which is still supported). People using the
browser have to make their own arrangements for getting updates.

The list of when things go EoL can be found at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases As the support time from 13.04 onwards for
desktop systems is now only 9 months, 12.10  will actually be supported
after 13.04 goes EoL (This is due to the change in support times for
desktops).


Regards,

Phill.

On 5 June 2013 16:59, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Phill,
>
> Thank you for your 2nd reply :)
>
> I'm aware of that difference and this is exactly what I tell the new
> comers to Lubuntu. You are not talking to one of them, by the way. I'm not
> an expert but let's say I'm an average user in the middle of the road,
> neither a beginner, nor an expert.
>
> What I was looking for is, as per your statement:
>
> As long as Lubuntu 12.04 will NOT receive ANY updates for PCManFM nor LX
> packages, then we CAN NOT call it an LTS, correct?
> Lubuntu 14.04 should be receiving these for 5 years.
>
> Okay, that we understand.
>
> Now, because the rules did not allow us to have an LTS version for 12.04,
> we couldn't go for it. NOT really because we don't have enough people?
> because the same people who worked on 12.04 will work on 14.04, am I right?
> correct me if I'm wrong or missing something :)
>
> And ...
> You just proved that LXLE, for example, is NOT an LTS version. I have told
> you that before and you insisted it is an LTS version.
> Thanks to Steve who confirmed it is just a claim by its creator.
>
> So, the ONLY way for me or anyone else to have an LTS release is to keep
> sending the necessary updates for ALL the parts/packages of that system. If
> ONE package will NOT receive any update, that will defeat the concept of
> LTS and that release will NOT be an LTS :) am I right?
>
> And having all the above said ...
> Why do we still keep Lubutnu 10.04? I know, please don't tell me because
> it supports the old hardware that Ubuntu dropped the support for with the
> newer releases. If Lubuntu 10.04 is out of date and there is a risk to use
> it because SOME of the LX packages or all of these packages are not
> receiving any update?
>
> And again, Lubuntu 12.04 once 13.10 will be release, it will reach its
> EOL, correct? then we should stop asking people to use it 'after' that
> date, correct?
>
> Once I get the answers to ALL these doubts that I have (YES, doubts - I'm
> aware of all what you said), I won't be lost anymore.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read and reply my confused and doubts Qs.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Ali,
>>
>> please understand the difference. anything that starts 'lx' and pcmanfm
>> will not receive updates in lubuntu 12.04 once it goes 'EOL' to Lubuntu.
>> Updates provided by 'core' systems (e.g. kernel, chomium etc.) will
>> continue to be available.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On 5 June 2013 13:30, Yorvyk <yorvik.ubunto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/06/13 12:50, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Phill,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your reply but I appreciate if the devs could answer my Qs
>>>> because what you have said I'm aware of and this is what we tell our new
>>>> users. I am asking for more information :)
>>>>
>>>>  An excellent explanation here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
>>>
>>>
>>>  @Our Devs:
>>>>
>>>> Another Q:
>>>> What makes LXLE, which is based on Lubuntu 12.04 an LTS release? while
>>>> LXLE is Lubuntu 12.04 with different apps and tweaks ONLY!
>>>>
>>>>  A claim by it's originator.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Another Q:
>>>> Can I just create a system based on Ubuntu 12.04 or Lubuntu 12.04 and
>>>> claim it is LTS just because I'm able to answer some Qs for 5 years or
>>>> what?
>>>>
>>>>  Yes, if you explain that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I seriously need a deep yet simple answer :)
>>>> And I believe our Devs can enlighten myself and others with the same Qs.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
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