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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Mélodie and Jörn,

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Best regards
Nio

On 2013-10-17 13:52, JM wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:05:08 +0200
> Jörn Schönyan <joern.schoenyan@xxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Am 17.10.2013 10:47, schrieb Nio Wiklund:
>>> Hi Jörn,
>>>
>>> Do you mean for really old computers (pre Pentium II), that are not
>>> helped by fake-PAE?
> ...
> 
>> According to Wikipedia, there are Pentium 3 that aren't capable of PAE.
>> I am thinking about this machines. But, I am not 100% sure if this is a
>> error on Wikipedia.
> 
>>> I think fake-PAE is good enough to make the current 32-bit kernels work
>>> well with Celeron M and Pentium M CPUs.
> 
>>> And there are 12.04 flavours and respins that promise long time support
>>> until April 2017, PreciseGnomeClassicTweaks, LXLE and Bodhi plus Xubuntu
>>> with LTS until April 2015.
> 
> Please add Ubuntu Openbox Remix to this list (Bento Village, built on Ubuntu Mini
> Remix) ;-)

Sure, Please give us a link, where it can be downloaded :-)

>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
> 
>> Yes, there are. But any of this use the "old" 3.2 kernel from Precise,
>> if I am correct.

Yes. I'm not sure if there are later Ubuntu kernel versions without PAE.
But these 3.2 kernels have SMP which is an advantage for modern
computers in contrast to the Debian kernels without PAE (if I remember
correctly). So Ubuntu non-PAE kernels can use several CPUs when available.

>>
>> Jörn
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have Lubuntu Saucy installed in a T30 since a few days. The machine was sold on the
> market in 2000 or 2001. The processor (cat /proc/cpuinfo) shows the pae instruction flag.
> 
> One thing which I don't understand is that the kernel actually in use is presented as
> "3.11.0.11-generic" : is it a generic one, or is it the new name for all the pae kernels
> in Ubuntu ?

All Ubuntu 32-bit kernels come with PAE since 12.10 if I rememeber
correctly.

> As for which machines have "pae but not showing", how do you know which machine does and
> which does not? (Apart from consulting Wikipedia?)

We have tested it. See this link

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE

I would be happy if you can add something to that list.

> For Jörn's question : what about starting a poll on the Ubuntu forums to see if some
> people would feel concerned?
> 
> Regards,
> Mélodie
> 

Feel free to do it :-) I think it is a good idea to find out (or at
least get a notion of) how many people would feel concerned, before
doing it (setting up a website with non-PAE kernels).