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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi again Ali,

I understand that you want the text as short as possible. Other people
want a longer paragraph to include a few more details. I think the
discussion should continue ...

Best regards
Nio

2014-03-27 19:05, Ali Linx skrev:
> 
> On 03/27/2014 07:51 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> Based on the feedback from several of you, I suggest the following text
>> for the Lubuntu Wiki page paragraph 'System Requirements'
>>
>> -----
>> text for the Lubuntu wiki page for Lubuntu 14.04 LTS
>>
>>
>> System Requirements
>>
>> Lubuntu is a good operating system for many old computers, but not for
>> all of them. Some computers have too little horsepower or memory. A rule
>> of thumb is that the computer should not be more than 10 years old.
>>
>>
>> Memory (RAM)
>>
>> If you plan to use advanced internet services like Google+, Youtube,
>> Google Docs and Facebook, your computer needs at least 1 GB RAM, but
>> 2 GB RAM makes the computer work better.
>>
>> If you plan to use local programs like Libre Office (for word
>> processing,spreadsheet calculations and presentations) and Thunderbird
>> for email, and seldom browse to web pages with a lot of graphics and
>> animations, your computer needs 512 MB RAM, but 768 MB or 1 GB RAM makes
>> it work significantly better.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Not trying here to force what I suggested previously but I highly
> recommend to KISS and the above text will definitely defeat the KISS logic.
> 
> You're making life much more complicated and at the same time, defeating
> the 'lightweight' term in Lubuntu.
> 
> 1-2GB RAM? that is what Ubuntu GNOME needs to work as fast as Lubuntu ;)
> 
> IMHO, it is a mistake to get into details. The more you get into
> details, the more limitation you put and more complications we add to
> the situation.
> 
> Our job is to explain the 'Recommended and/or the Minimum Requirements'.
> It is for the users to decide what they will use their system for. If we
> get into details, we shall need a long pages and then more feedback and
> infinite loop of emails, etc. This is a HUGE waste of time.
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Processor (CPU)
>>
>> The minimum specification for CPU is Pentium 4 or Pentium M or AMD K8.
>> Older processors are too slow and AMD K7 has problems with flash video.
>>
>> VIA C7 might run with Xubuntu 12.04 LTS or Bento, Bodhi, LXLE.
> 
> If truth to be told, I'm against to mention names of systems that are
> not from Ubuntu Family :)
> 
>>
>> Graphics chip / card
>>
>> Nvidia, AMD/ATI/Radeon and Intel work out of the box, or the system can
>> be tweaked to work fairly easily. You can get help at the Ubuntu Forums.
>> With such graphics, or if you don't know, try Lubuntu 14.04 LTS.
>>
>> SIS grahics should be run with flavours or re-spins of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS,
>> for example Bento, Bodhi, LXLE.
> 
> Ubuntu family work on most of the cards so IMHO, no need to get into
> details about this.
> 
>>
>>
>> Installer
>>
>> The desktop installer works in most cases. If you have problems, for
>> example with the graphics, try the alternate installer.
>>
>>
>> Advanced methods
>>
>> If you have an older or less powerful system, and you are ready for
>> advanced methods, read the tips at this page.
>> -----
>> (Suggestions for the wiki page 'Advanced methods' is not written yet)
>>
> 
> If you guys are planning for detailed system requirements, that is
> definitely a new separate Wiki Page :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Best regards
>> Nio
> 
> I guess that is all what I have to share :)
> 
> 
>>
>> 2014-03-27 10:08, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>>
>>> The text we are discussing is like this now
>>> -----
>>> System Requirements
>>>
>>> We have done many tests and we've found out that Lubuntu can be
>>> installed on a Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM, but such
>>> a system would not perform well enough for daily use.
>>>
>>> With 256MB - 384MB of RAM, the performance will be better and the system
>>> will be more usable.
>>>
>>> With 512MB of RAM, you don't need to worry much.
>>>
>>> The default "Desktop" installer requires 384-800 MB of RAM (depending on
>>> selected options.) If you have problems, please use the "Alternate"
>>> installer.
>>> -----
>>> and it is part of the web page
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>>>
>>> which was last edited 2013-11-26 12:48:42 by dale-visser
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we must change it.
>>>
>>> 1. Lubuntu Core Trusty works with 128 MB RAM, but not standard Lubuntu
>>> Trusty. And Lubuntu Core needs at least 256 MB to work reasonably well,
>>> but not for browsing bloated web pages. So it is mis-leading to state
>>> that Lubuntu can be installed with 128 MB of RAM. It might be true for
>>> some old version, but it is not true for Lubuntu Trusty.
>>>
>>> 2. With zRAM, the Lubuntu desktop installer does not need more than 384
>>> MB RAM. Before zRAM was used, it might need 700-800 MB for some
>>> complicated installations.
>>>
>>> 3. Let us consider if we should specify the amount of RAM necessary for
>>> the alternate installer. I think it is better to specify it.
>>>
>>> 4. Let us consider if we should also display the alternatives OBI and 9w
>>> to install Lubuntu Core, which is lighter than standard Lubuntu.
>>> Remember that there are many old computers with 256 MB RAM!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>>>
>>>
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