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[Ali Linx <ali.linux@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 03/27/2014 07:51 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Based on the feedback from several of you, I suggest the following text
> for the Lubuntu Wiki page paragraph 'System Requirements'
>
> -----
> text for the Lubuntu wiki page for Lubuntu 14.04 LTS
>
>
> System Requirements
>
> Lubuntu is a good operating system for many old computers, but not for
> all of them. Some computers have too little horsepower or memory. A rule
> of thumb is that the computer should not be more than 10 years old.
>
>
> Memory (RAM)
>
> If you plan to use advanced internet services like Google+, Youtube,
> Google Docs and Facebook, your computer needs at least 1 GB RAM, but
> 2 GB RAM makes the computer work better.
>
> If you plan to use local programs like Libre Office (for word
> processing,spreadsheet calculations and presentations) and Thunderbird
> for email, and seldom browse to web pages with a lot of graphics and
> animations, your computer needs 512 MB RAM, but 768 MB or 1 GB RAM makes
> it work significantly better.

Hi,

Not trying here to force what I suggested previously but I highly 
recommend to KISS and the above text will definitely defeat the KISS logic.

You're making life much more complicated and at the same time, defeating 
the 'lightweight' term in Lubuntu.

1-2GB RAM? that is what Ubuntu GNOME needs to work as fast as Lubuntu ;)

IMHO, it is a mistake to get into details. The more you get into 
details, the more limitation you put and more complications we add to 
the situation.

Our job is to explain the 'Recommended and/or the Minimum Requirements'. 
It is for the users to decide what they will use their system for. If we 
get into details, we shall need a long pages and then more feedback and 
infinite loop of emails, etc. This is a HUGE waste of time.



> Processor (CPU)
>
> The minimum specification for CPU is Pentium 4 or Pentium M or AMD K8.
> Older processors are too slow and AMD K7 has problems with flash video.
>
> VIA C7 might run with Xubuntu 12.04 LTS or Bento, Bodhi, LXLE.

If truth to be told, I'm against to mention names of systems that are 
not from Ubuntu Family :)

> Graphics chip / card
>
> Nvidia, AMD/ATI/Radeon and Intel work out of the box, or the system can
> be tweaked to work fairly easily. You can get help at the Ubuntu Forums.
> With such graphics, or if you don't know, try Lubuntu 14.04 LTS.
>
> SIS grahics should be run with flavours or re-spins of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS,
> for example Bento, Bodhi, LXLE.

Ubuntu family work on most of the cards so IMHO, no need to get into 
details about this.

> Installer
>
> The desktop installer works in most cases. If you have problems, for
> example with the graphics, try the alternate installer.
>
>
> Advanced methods
>
> If you have an older or less powerful system, and you are ready for
> advanced methods, read the tips at this page.
> -----
> (Suggestions for the wiki page 'Advanced methods' is not written yet)

If you guys are planning for detailed system requirements, that is 
definitely a new separate Wiki Page :)




> Best regards
> Nio

I guess that is all what I have to share :)


> 2014-03-27 10:08, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> >
> > The text we are discussing is like this now
> > -----
> > System Requirements
> >
> > We have done many tests and we've found out that Lubuntu can be
> > installed on a Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM, but such
> > a system would not perform well enough for daily use.
> >
> > With 256MB - 384MB of RAM, the performance will be better and the system
> > will be more usable.
> >
> > With 512MB of RAM, you don't need to worry much.
> >
> > The default "Desktop" installer requires 384-800 MB of RAM (depending on
> > selected options.) If you have problems, please use the "Alternate"
> > installer.
> > -----
> > and it is part of the web page
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
> >
> > which was last edited 2013-11-26 12:48:42 by dale-visser
> >
> >
> > I think we must change it.
> >
> > 1. Lubuntu Core Trusty works with 128 MB RAM, but not standard Lubuntu
> > Trusty. And Lubuntu Core needs at least 256 MB to work reasonably well,
> > but not for browsing bloated web pages. So it is mis-leading to state
> > that Lubuntu can be installed with 128 MB of RAM. It might be true for
> > some old version, but it is not true for Lubuntu Trusty.
> >
> > 2. With zRAM, the Lubuntu desktop installer does not need more than 384
> > MB RAM. Before zRAM was used, it might need 700-800 MB for some
> > complicated installations.
> >
> > 3. Let us consider if we should specify the amount of RAM necessary for
> > the alternate installer. I think it is better to specify it.
> >
> > 4. Let us consider if we should also display the alternatives OBI and 9w
> > to install Lubuntu Core, which is lighter than standard Lubuntu.
> > Remember that there are many old computers with 256 MB RAM!
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio

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