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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Walter,

If I can prove? In my opinion my test reports at the QA-tracker and the
mails to you show in detail what I did and what results I had. If that
is not enough, I'm sorry. I can't come to your place and show in your
computer ;-) What I can do is write a comment in the bug report 1425681.

I accept that you decide to remove the LVM + encryption testcase. But I
think it was based on information that was not complete. If you have
general reasons to reduce the testcases, OK.

I can't find that particular text for the removed testcase. I tried, but
it is not easy to search in the Launchpad jungle. If you want me to
help, please send a direct link!

Best regards
Nio

Den 2015-02-27 17:13, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
> I have to rely on what I hear from testers, especially when multiple
> testers report the same thing:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1425681
> If you can prove that it is not true, then perhaps that might suggest
> other behaviors.
> 
> Still, I don't want LVM to be a mandatory testcase. I'm concerned more
> about the many. When we have more resources, I'll make it mandatory
> again :-)
> 
> The old testcase still exists, but I'm not using it. You can find out
> how to find them and how to contribute here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Manual
> 
> @wxl
> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
> Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
> 
> On Feb 26, 2015 10:36 PM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Walter,
> 
>     It is *not* true that LVM only works if you already have LVM set up. It
>     works also from a blank drive (with only a partition table created by
>     for example gparted, no partitions at all). And it works with Lubuntu
>     Vivid 32-bit installed from the desktop as well as from the alternate
>     installer. Did you read my test reports?
> 
>     I can only talk for myself: I can continue to test that Lubuntu works
>     with LVM, encrypted disk and encrypted home.
> 
>     But we would have to rely on someone else to squash bugs encountered
>     during the testing. In this particular case we can have a 'plan B', to
>     add some extra steps that were not necessary in earlier versions of
>     Lubuntu. If you give me access to the text of the previous testcase, I
>     can add and modify it to make it useful in the future (either for the
>     desktop or the alternate installer). And you can revive it.
> 
>     You are the QA leader and you can remove or add whatever test cases you
>     like. I hope your decisions are the best for Lubuntu.
> 
>     Best regards
>     Nio
> 
>     Den 2015-02-26 23:34, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
>     > Well, at this point it seems LVM only works if you already have LVM
>     > set up. This seems to be problematic.
>     >
>     > Also, it's imperative that we limit our scope in order to not get
>     > overwhelmed. We have a small team and can only do so much. The scope I
>     > consider appropriate includes packages we can support ourselves or
>     > that have good support in the community. Ultimately, this does not
>     > apply to debian-installer. However, alternate images are a necessary
>     > evil. So then I would limit the scope to what parts of
>     > debian-installer are relevant to the average user. Encryption arguably
>     > is applicable, but LVM is certainly not.
>     >
>     > That being said, I'd be happy to include optional testcases (meaning
>     > if they fail, the release will not be delayed) for LVM and encryption,
>     > but I would want these to be separate.
>     >
>     > So who wants to make sure the LVM bug gets fixed and the testcases get
>     > rewritten? That includes making sure that that equivalent testcases
>     > are written for ubiquity (which will also be optional). If someone
>     > wants to do the work, I'll set them up on the tracker.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Lars Noodén
>     <lars.nooden@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lars.nooden@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     >> On 26.02.2015 08 <tel:26.02.2015%2008>:36, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>     >>> ...
>     >>> @ Walter: I suggest that we have at least one testcase with LVM,
>     >>> encrypted disk and encrypted home. If we cannot keep the one
>     that exists
>     >>> now for the alternate iso, I suggest that we make one for the
>     desktop iso.
>     >>> ...
>     >>
>     >> +1 it is important to be able to offer encryption,
>     >> without a test case it might fall to the wayside
>     >>
>     >> Regards,
>     >> /Lars
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
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